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Applying 1 Timothy 5:19 in the real world

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  • Applying 1 Timothy 5:19 in the real world

    A friend of mine who is a Southern Baptist pastor was sharing his thoughts on the sexual abuse scandal, and he mentioned 1 Timothy 5:19:

    "Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses."

    This can be a difficult one in the real world, especially with sexual abuse, which can be done in secret. A he said/she said situation is difficult, and of course false accusations have been made. While acknowledging wisdom is important, he had an idea I found helpful: Corrobating evidence may serve as a witness. If there's video evidence, that might serve as a "witness."

    A hypothetical example I thought of is a situation where a church elder was caught on camera committing a crime like stealing from a store. If the elder claims that there were not two witnesses, I don't think that would fly. That technology didn't exist when 1 Timothy was written, and Paul being the pragmatic person he was, I don't think he would have any patience for someone trying to fall back on that verse as a get out of jail free card.
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    Yeah, if the technology existed "back in the day", I think it would be more like "Absent solid photographic evidence...."

    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.


    • #3
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Yeah, if the technology existed "back in the day", I think it would be more like "Absent solid photographic evidence...."

      OR.... everybody who watches the video becomes an additional witness!
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.


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        That verse alludes to the OT principle in the Law. Therein, the word "witness" is elsewhere translated as "testimony" or "evidence" (at least in the NET).
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