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The STRANGEST Spiritual Gifts

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
    On the other hand, I knew a man who was well taught but said he wasn't a fruit inspector. It may have been his way of dealing with at the time our current pastor who changed his positions as the fads in the Christian church changed. I get you can't be nitpicky on every little detail, especially in the nonessentials, but I can't see the pastor being a position that is exempt from correction.
    This is good stuff, so lemme come back to this.... I OFTEN point out to my church that Matt 18:15ff ALSO applies to the Pastor - he is not exempt from it. But it ALSO should be applied in the same manner as the rest of that "Church Discipline" section --- to win somebody back, not to drive them off.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

      I suspect from the father of all lies. He actually had a notebook, and took notes on the sermon, and would offer damning condemnation like "you said 1 John for that one reference, but it was actually 2 John....."

      (I will often say something like, "and the verse about [such and so] - I think it's Romans 4...." --- clearly not intended as a "thus sayeth the LORD".)
      Yuh.


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      • #18
        Oh, and bacon.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #19
          I miss Jed.



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          • #20
            I has the spearchul gift of attracting trolls. And forgetfulness. That last one comes in handy a lot.

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            • #21
              I need to put on my glasses. I read your post as it is below.

              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Absolutely agreed -- I just don't see that - as he claimed - to be a Spiritual Gift. Discernment? Yes. Teaching, Extortion.... yes.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                This is good stuff, so lemme come back to this.... I OFTEN point out to my church that Matt 18:15ff ALSO applies to the Pastor - he is not exempt from it. But it ALSO should be applied in the same manner as the rest of that "Church Discipline" section --- to win somebody back, not to drive them off.
                So easy to say and yet hard to do right. Probably no wonder many churches neglect discipline.
                "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  I need to put on my glasses. I read your post as it is below.
                  Now, if that had been said by the Pirate...
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                    So easy to say and yet hard to do right. Probably no wonder many churches neglect discipline.
                    This is why, every church I have been in, I manage to preach that passage at least once a year, and refer to it multiple times - ALWAYS laying down the groundwork about it being for the purpose of salvaging a relationship, not severing one.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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