How much should you try to help someone?

[Dave L]

I am more concerned about feeding them than getting a reward. If I tell them I am doing it in Jesus' name, then they are not beholden to me, but to God.

How would you like to be degraded, and treated like a pet by someone you know cannot have pure motives in any "good" that they do?

[Bill the Cat]

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[Cow Poke]

So basically you are just being greedy trying to give in secret so you can get more rewards rather than just helping someone because it is the right thing to do?

That!!!

[Sparko]

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Oops I didn't notice. I will stop responding to him.

[Mountain Man]

Don't try to game the system if you're up against an omniscient "opponent". Jesus will know if you are only giving to get brownie points.

God will not be mocked.

[Christianbookworm]

Do we need another derail thread?

[Mountain Man]

Do we need another derail thread?

It wasn't a derail since Dave was on topic. He just shouldn't have posted in this forum.

[Christianbookworm]

Anyway, can we all agree unsolicited help is annoying. Please ask first.

[Cow Poke]

Oops I didn't notice. I will stop responding to him.

Yeah, me too neither.

[Sparko]

Anyway, can we all agree unsolicited help is annoying. Please ask first.

That is true, and also most people who need help are actually asking for it, so if they ask you and you give it to them, that doesn't make them your "pet" or make them indebted to you. It means you care and want to help.

If someone is hungry and asking me for food am I supposed to say wait while I go donate to the Salvation Army and they will get you some food? No. I am supposed to give them some food, in Jesus name.

[Cow Poke]

That is true, and also most people who need help are actually asking for it, so if they ask you and you give it to them, that doesn't make them your "pet" or make them indebted to you. It means you care and want to help.

If someone is hungry and asking me for food am I supposed to say wait while I go donate to the Salvation Army and they will get you some food? No. I am supposed to give them some food, in Jesus name.

It's really all about common sense, and NOT about legalism. If you really care about the person, you kinda pick up on how you can help, or how to channel help their way. I often say, "I know you'll be in a better position to help somebody else" or something like that.

I've only had ONE TIME where somebody was so proud that they blew up and quit the church when we tried to help them with a very serious financial matter.

[Sparko]

It's really all about common sense, and NOT about legalism. If you really care about the person, you kinda pick up on how you can help, or how to channel help their way. I often say, "I know you'll be in a better position to help somebody else" or something like that.

I've only had ONE TIME where somebody was so proud that they blew up and quit the church when we tried to help them with a very serious financial matter.

I mean if everyone did as Dave L says then how can the Salvation Army even give someone help? They aren't being anonymous with Dave L's money, they are openly helping people who know exactly who they are.

[Cow Poke]

I mean if everyone did as Dave L says then how can the Salvation Army even give someone help? They aren't being anonymous with Dave L's money, they are openly helping people who know exactly who they are.

That's in the same category, to me, as wealthy people who solve this "care for your neighbor" by writing a check. Jesus actually interacted with people - that's a HUGE reason He came to the planet. And He did it in the full view of everybody so much, that John even indicated we only have a tiny fraction of His public works recorded in the Bible.

[Cow Poke]

I mean if everyone did as Dave L says then how can the Salvation Army even give someone help? They aren't being anonymous with Dave L's money, they are openly helping people who know exactly who they are.

So he's causing them to sin!

[Mountain Man]

That's in the same category, to me, as wealthy people who solve this "care for your neighbor" by writing a check.

As the late Keith Green once said, "You should pray daily for the ministries around the world and ask God, 'Instead of sending my money, how about me going?' It's so easy to write a check. It's so easy, but God can't cash out of state checks in heaven. He needs you."