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  • #16

    Never mind, would serve the purpose
    1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

      True...but sarcasm is usually done to make a point.
      Or, if you're like H_A and get caught saying something dumb, you can always claim it was sarcasm, and it's your own fault for not catching it!
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

        Or, if you're like H_A and get caught saying something dumb, you can always claim it was sarcasm, and it's your own fault for not catching it!
        An interesting pattern seems to be evident.

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        1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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        • #19
          Facebook hates the Babylon Bee, ergo sarcasm and satire are godly.
          Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

          Beige Federalist.

          "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

          Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

          Let's go, Brandon

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          • #20
            Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
            Facebook hates the Babylon Bee, ergo sarcasm and satire are godly.
            I think the supposed "fact checkers" hate them even more. Snopes had "fact checked" their satirical articles several times getting them in trouble with Facebook. Others, like Reuters and USA Today at least make it clear the site is a satirical site. IIRC, the NYT has also wrote several articles attacking the Bee.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              I think the supposed "fact checkers" hate them even more. Snopes had "fact checked" their satirical articles several times getting them in trouble with Facebook. Others, like Reuters and USA Today at least make it clear the site is a satirical site. IIRC, the NYT has also wrote several articles attacking the Bee.
              All the right people hate them.

              Now that I think about it, that -- his being maniacally hated by all the right people -- was the main thing that pushed me off the fence to vote for Bad Orange Man in 2016.
              Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

              Beige Federalist.

              "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

              Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

              Let's go, Brandon

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              • #22
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                  Had an interesting question come across my feed on FB...

                  For a Christian, is sarcasm a good or bad thing?


                  Thoughts?
                  Got Questions has a article on this subject:

                  https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-sarcasm.html

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Christian3 View Post

                    Got Questions has a article on this subject:

                    https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-sarcasm.html
                    A more accurate picture of the differences between irony, satire, and sarcasm can be found here: even so, it does not include a full range of meanings and applications of the terms.

                    George Orwell's Animal Farm is classified as satire - with irony underpinning its basic message.

                    It should be remembered too, that Jesus was known to use outright insult when circumstances warranted, so - the assessment by "gotquestions" needs a bit more than a bit of work.
                    Last edited by tabibito; 10-01-2021, 07:58 AM.
                    1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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                    • #25
                      And then there's this delightful site.
                      Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                      Beige Federalist.

                      "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                      Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                      Let's go, Brandon

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                        And then there's this delightful site.
                        There's that picture again.
                        1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                          A more accurate picture of the differences between irony, satire, and sarcasm can be found here: even so, it does not include a full range of meanings and applications of the terms.

                          George Orwell's Animal Farm is classified as satire - with irony underpinning its basic message.

                          It should be remembered too, that Jesus was known to use outright insult when circumstances warranted, so - the assessment by "gotquestions" needs a bit more than a bit of work.
                          Something I've noted upon several different occasions

                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          This is a point that I and others frequently raise when unbelievers start this crap.

                          Christ used insults Himself to drive home His message. He understood that some times it was necessary to speak plainly and directly, to explicitly call out something as it is by its right name rather than sugar coat it. This was something that folks like Paul, John the Baptist and the prophets and even Jesus often did. They did not shrink from using harsh language to make their point and did not beat around the bush because they were scared they might upset someone's delicate sensibilities. Jesus did not come to make "nice" but rather was honest and forthright

                          For instance, look at what Christ said in Matthew 23:33 to the Pharisees: "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?" In the same exchange He repeatedly and explicitly referred to them as "hypocrites," as well as "whitewashed tombs" (looks good on the outside but full of rot and uncleanness on the inside), "blind fools" and even "child of hell" (in John 8:44 He said "You are of your father the devil"[1]).

                          Earlier at His baptism He called the Pharisees and Sadducees a brood of vipers (Matthew 3:7) and again after casting out a demon He said "You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil?" (Matthew 12:34).

                          And often the insults were much more subtle (at least to us in the 21st century) but just as telling. For instance in Matt. 12:5 when Christ asks the Pharisees "Or have you not read in the Law..." this was a very serious slap in the face. The Pharisees spent a great deal of their time reading and studying the Law so to ask them "have you not read" was akin to calling them morons and imbeciles for being incapable of understanding what they read.

                          Moreover Jesus did far more than merely use strong language as you alluded to. In the cleansing of the Temple account we are told in John 2 that Jesus made a whip or scourge out of cords and used it to drive out the money-changers (who's tables He over-turned in the process).

                          But atheists want us to believe that Jesus was all about hugs and saying things like "can't we all just get along?" in order to browbeat us into submission and meekly accepting whatever drek they try to cram down our throats. I think whateverman and those like him would condemn Jesus as acting in an unchristlike manner









                          1. Paul also called someone (Elymas the magician) "You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy" as recorded in Acts 13:10. Should he have hugged him and been cautious of hurting his feelings instead?

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                            There's that picture again.
                            And he's looking directly at you when he gave "that look"

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              [indent]And often the insults were much more subtle (at least to us in the 21st century) but just as telling. For instance in Matt. 12:5 when Christ asks the Pharisees "Or have you not read in the Law..." this was a very serious slap in the face. The Pharisees spent a great deal of their time reading and studying the Law so to ask them "have you not read" was akin to calling them morons and imbeciles for being incapable of understanding what they read.
                              [indent]
                              I'm neither satisfied that this is as bad as some consider it, nor that it isn't. To date there just isn't enough data to make the call.

                              But atheists want us to believe that Jesus was all about hugs and saying things like "can't we all just get along?" in order to browbeat us into submission and meekly accepting whatever drek they try to cram down our throats. I think whateverman and those like him would condemn Jesus as acting in an unchristlike manner.
                              Stories like this don't originate with atheists. (to employ a sweeping generalisation)
                              1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                                I'm neither satisfied that this is as bad as some consider it, nor that it isn't. To date there just isn't enough data to make the call.
                                From everything I've read, this was a verbal slap in the face.

                                Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                                Stories like this don't originate with atheists. (to employ a sweeping generalisation)
                                The post dealt with a specific example


                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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