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  • #61
    Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

    One church I was at, the leaders were called pastor-teachers.
    Various sources claim the grammar of Eph. 4 could suggest such a linkage.
    Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

    Beige Nationalist.

    "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

    Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

      Various sources claim the grammar of Eph. 4 could suggest such a linkage.
      Verses 11-13 in particular?
      sigpic1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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      • #63
        Originally posted by tabibito View Post

        Verses 11-13 in particular?
        Verse 11 especially. Several sources say the Greek suggests a particularly close linkage between "shepherds" and "teachers."
        Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

        Beige Nationalist.

        "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

        Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

          Verse 11 especially. Several sources say the Greek suggests a particularly close linkage between "shepherds" and "teachers."
          The English likewise: switching from τους δε (and the) between the other posts to a simple και (and) between pastors and teachers is suggestive, but not conclusive. Not one among "apostles, prophets, evangelists, and pastors" can perform their tasks without being heavily involved in teaching. Healers is absent from this list, as are other posts which don't have heavy involvement in teaching. 1 Cor 12:28 has teachers in third position, where Eph 4:11 has evangelists ...

          At this stage I would have no hesitation in asserting with full confidence,


          maybe.
          Last edited by tabibito; 08-28-2021, 05:58 AM.
          sigpic1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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