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Originally posted by mossrose View Post
By the time it gets to your place you'll need a hacksaw to get the other hacksaw out. And you will be as old as Methuselah.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Public information and warning: sexual offender released
For Immediate Release: 01-Mar-2021 @ 11:03 AM
MRU #: HR21R003
In the interest of public safety, the Edmonton Police Service is issuing the following warning; Cyle Larsen is a convicted sexual offender and the Edmonton Police Service has reasonable grounds to believe he will commit another sexual offence against someone under the age of 16 while in the community and, as such, there is a duty to warn the public about the risk LARSEN poses.
Larsen will be residing in the Edmonton area. LARSEN will be bound by a Probation Order and will be monitored by the Edmonton Probation Office. LARSEN was recently released from the Edmonton Remand Centre.
Larsen is considered a child sex offender with pedophilic interests towards both male and female children. LARSEN has a history of opportunistic offending against children known to him; and has shown he will groom and/or lure his victims if given the chance.
What a screwed up system.
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This just in, right this minute! Good news!
https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_jam...ource=therebel
Pastor James Coates of Edmonton's GraceLife Church is set to be released in the next few days after Crown prosecutors have agreed to withdraw all but one of his charges related to keeping his church open during the province's COVID lockdown.
According to his legal representation at the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms:The Justice Centre will defend Pastor Coates on one remaining charge of violating an Order of the Chief Medical Officer of Health by challenging the lawfulness of the public health order that he is charged with violating.
The Pastor of Grace Life Church near Edmonton has been incarcerated in the Edmonton Remand Centre for a month, since February 16. It is expected that Pastor Coates could be released from jail as early as Friday, March 19.
Pastor Coates was arrested by authorities in Alberta after he allowed, and led, services at GraceLife in contravention of the province's restrictions on public gatherings. Currently, Alberta is only allowing religious gatherings to operate at 15 per cent of the buildings fire code capacity.
Refusing to adhere to the capacity limitations and not forcing congregants to wear masks eventually led to a $1,200 fine and subsequent surveillance by Alberta government officials. Ultimately, GraceLife received an executive order to close the church from the province's Chief Medical Officer of Health Deena Hinshaw.
On February 7, pastor Coates was arrested in his office, though he was released. Following his release, the pastor then returned to holding services the next weeked, February 14, as he had been doing, and once more run afoul of police. Pastor Coates was asked to turn himself in and did so the on February 16.
Pastor Coates would then be placed in custody at Edmonton's Remand Centre — a maximum security prison. Despite the province previously releasing low-risk offenders due to COVID-19 concerns, the pastor remained behind bars.
The pastor was presented with bail terms that, according to his lawyer, James Kitchen from the Justice Centre, were directives he could not follow in good conscience.
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I'm still trying to figure out how "challenging the lawfulness of the public health order" is against the law. Because the public health order is NOT the law, and I thought we were able to challenge the "law".
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James was released today.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7711765/a...released-jail/
An Alberta pastor who was kept in jail for violating a bail condition to comply with COVID-19 health orders was to be freed Monday without conditions.
James Coates of GraceLife Church in Parkland County pleaded guilty to a charge of breaching bail and was fined $1,500.
However, a judge said the 35 days Coates had spent in custody would count as credit for the entire fine.
Coates was charged in February after officials said the church west of Edmonton had violated public-health measures meant to help contain the spread of COVID-19.
Provincial court Judge Jeffrey Champion agreed to drop all but one charge against Coates. The pastor is to go to trial in May on a count under Alberta’s Public Health Act for holding services that allegedly broke a restriction on the size of gatherings.
Crown prosecutor Leighton Grey and a defence lawyer with the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedom, a group representing the pastor, had suggested Coates be fined $100 for breaching the court undertaking.
The judge disagreed.
“I question whether $100 is a proper denunciation of the conduct of Mr. Coates as well as proper deterrence for others that might feel that ‘I can violate the directions of the chief medical officer of health and get $100 fine,'” Champion said.
The judge said that when the pastor was arrested, the spread of COVID-19 was a serious concern and services at the church could have been “super-spreaders” of the novel coronavirus.
“Members of that (church) were going out into the community in general,” said the judge, who noted that Coates has referred to himself as a shepherd.
“The shepherd ought to protect his flock,” Champion said.
The pastor, wearing an orange-and-black jumpsuit and taking a mask off his face, told the judge in a video conference that he wasn’t trying to make a statement by not complying with his bail conditions.
“I realized that’s the way society is going to perceive what’s happening here. (But) I’m simply here in obedience to Jesus Christ, and it’s my obedience to Christ that has put me at odds with the law,” said Coates.
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I fear the day is coming when this will be so common that we won't have time to respond to every arrest or release."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View PostI fear the day is coming when this will be so common that we won't have time to respond to every arrest or release.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
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Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
Especially when we only have an isolated pastor here and there defying the fascists. If 80% did it, it would not be as easy to lock them all up.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
Yeah there won't be that many pastors bucking the tide to make any sort of difference. I listen to James White only because he's a huge conduit into what's going on in the western church world, and apparently most churches (at least the major ones) are going along not just with the leftist wokeism religion, but most of the draconian pandemic mandates.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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I was disgusted to read in my local paper last night that the province has given "grants" (read "rewards") to 4 churches in my town, and, I assume, throughout the province, of up to $5000 for obeying the shut downs orders. The money is meant to be used to buy PPE.
Are you kidding me? These churches have been mostly empty for over a year! Give the money to churches that are courageous enough to continue to hold services and obey the Lord's commands! This is nothing more than a bribe to encourage these disobedient churches to continue to stay closed!!!
I hate this screwed up world. Dear Lord, come soon!
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