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  • mossrose
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    Originally posted by The Melody Maker View Post
    Defense: 2
    Persecution: 0

    https://www.jccf.ca/day-2-pastor-coates-trial-update/

    If I'm reading this right, this part of the trial is over and will resume June 7 -- and the Crown will be required to produce evidence warranting the lockdowns (and I highly doubt that have any).

    It's looking really good for Pastor James, and really bad for the provincial government and Alberta Health Services.
    And, from the Justice Centre today:

    https://www.jccf.ca/alberta-governme...QUuXjLgADbCUP8

    Alberta Government’s own data shows hospital bed and ICU utilization at five-year low

    Posted On: May 5, 2021

    CALGARY: The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms today released extensive government data (see links and images throughout) showing that Alberta’s hospitals are not overcrowded, are in no immediate danger of being overwhelmed, and haven't been in no immediate danger of being overwhelmed, and haven't been in serious danger of turning away patients for more than a year.

    Alberta Government data contradicts the assertion of Premier Jason Kenney that further restrictions on Charter freedoms of association and peaceful assembly, and the shutdown of personal wellness, bars, restaurants and small businesses, are necessary to protect Alberta’s health-care system from being “overwhelmed.” On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 Jason Kenney announced a fourth wave of extreme lockdown measures including closing hair salons, tattoo shops, personal wellness services, schools, post-secondary institutions and outdoor patios, among other closures.

    Evidence uncovered by the Justice Centre through Freedom of Information (FOI) requests reveal that regular hospital beds as well as Intensive Care Units were in significantly less demand and usage during 2020 and 2021 than in any year as far back as 2015. In fact, 2020 ICU admissions were at their lowest level since 2015.(FOI Request)

    In January 2021, bed utilization was 90.12%, compared to 95.21% bed utilization in January 2020. The same pattern is repeated for February 2021, when Alberta was eleven months into lockdown restrictions. View the dataset.

    In March through May 2020, bed utilization plummeted, likely as a result of lockdown cancellations of more than 22,000 scheduled surgeries, which resulted in the death of Gerry Dunham in Medicine Hat. In early 2021, the 93% utilization rate was below the 96% level recorded in the years 2015 through 2019.

    The government has not provided further ICU utilization numbers for 2021. However, during the last quarter of 2020, ICU utilization province-wide was comparable to, or less than, previous years. There was a slight rise in December 2020, but ICU spaces in Alberta were still well below full capacity.

    On 3rd April 2020, the Alberta government had 1,935 acute care beds available for COVID-19 patients. According to a modelling document the government posted on its website on April 8, 2020, AHS planned to expand the number of acute care beds dedicated to COVID-19 patients to 2,250 by the end of April 2020. The same document also stated: “AHS plans to be able to increase ICU capacity by 1081 beds for COVID-19 patients by the end of April, if necessary.”
    “Obviously the Alberta government has failed to follow through on these commitments made in April of 2020. Creating necessary capacity to treat patients would have cost a lot less than the daily damage that lockdowns inflict on Alberta’s society and economy, and the physical, mental, emotional and financial well-being of Albertans,” states lawyer and Justice Centre President John Carpay.

    “We are now in our fourteenth month of Charter violations and economic destruction. The government has had ample time to increase hospital and ICU capacity, but instead blames Albertans for trying to live their lives normally,” concludes Mr. Carpay.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by The Melody Maker View Post
    Defense: 2
    Persecution: 0

    https://www.jccf.ca/day-2-pastor-coates-trial-update/

    If I'm reading this right, this part of the trial is over and will resume June 7 -- and the Crown will be required to produce evidence warranting the lockdowns (and I highly doubt that have any).

    It's looking really good for Pastor James, and really bad for the provincial government and Alberta Health Services.
    Never, ever forget that governments cheat. There is a reason folks say that you can't fight city hall or how "I fought the law, and the law won."

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  • The Melody Maker
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    Defense: 2
    Persecution: 0

    https://www.jccf.ca/day-2-pastor-coates-trial-update/

    If I'm reading this right, this part of the trial is over and will resume June 7 -- and the Crown will be required to produce evidence warranting the lockdowns (and I highly doubt that have any).

    It's looking really good for Pastor James, and really bad for the provincial government and Alberta Health Services.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by The Melody Maker View Post
    The score thus far as of yesterday:

    Defense: 1
    Persecution Prosecution: 0

    https://www.jccf.ca/pastor-james-coa...-report-day-1/

    So far, so good.
    I think you were at least partially right before the "edit." There does seem to be an element of "we're in charge and how dare you question us" involved

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  • The Melody Maker
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    The score thus far as of yesterday:

    Defense: 1
    Persecution Prosecution: 0

    https://www.jccf.ca/pastor-james-coa...-report-day-1/

    So far, so good.

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  • mossrose
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    Originally posted by The Melody Maker View Post
    So the trial is supposed to last up to four days...

    https://www.jccf.ca/trial-of-pastor-...dmonton-may-3/

    This is going to be a long week.
    Yeah. Saw that on the news tonight.

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  • The Melody Maker
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    So the trial is supposed to last up to four days...

    https://www.jccf.ca/trial-of-pastor-...dmonton-may-3/

    This is going to be a long week.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Or as indicated,

    IV: the rioters outnumbered those who wanted a peaceful protest.



    Mary Louise Kelly, anchor of All Things Considered on NPR kept pushing the "months of large scale, mostly peaceful demonstrations" bull hockey this past weekend as she complained about "anti-protest bills," that as her only guest, fellow traveler Nick Robinson (a Senior Legal Advisor for the International Center for Not-for-Profit Law (ICNL), where he focuses on the U.S.) who declares any such efforts will "undermine the right to peaceful assembly."

    Here's a clue to the clueless. If you're rioting... you know, being violent, looting, destroying property -- that sort of thing -- you are not engaged in a peaceful protest. You can't have a violent peaceful assembly.
    And a very easy indentificationalistic feature --- if it's DARK or "AFTER DARK", it's almost 100% NOT a peaceful protest, nor is it intended to be.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    EGGzackly --- if the riots were "mostly peaceful", why didn't the "peaceful" members talk the rioters out of rioting?

    Possible explanations...
    A) the rioters were far too intimidating
    2) the "peaceful protesters" weren't peaceful after all
    C) all of the above
    Or as indicated,

    IV: the rioters outnumbered those who wanted a peaceful protest.



    Mary Louise Kelly, anchor of All Things Considered on NPR kept pushing the "months of large scale, mostly peaceful demonstrations" bull hockey this past weekend as she complained about "anti-protest bills," that as her only guest, fellow traveler Nick Robinson (a Senior Legal Advisor for the International Center for Not-for-Profit Law (ICNL), where he focuses on the U.S.) who declares any such efforts will "undermine the right to peaceful assembly."

    Here's a clue to the clueless. If you're rioting... you know, being violent, looting, destroying property -- that sort of thing -- you are not engaged in a peaceful protest. You can't have a violent peaceful assembly.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Would have been nice to have seen some of this during the several months of rioting we endured last month. But in all of those cases it would have been at best a small group of Christians in the middle of a mob determined to loot and burn.
    EGGzackly --- if the riots were "mostly peaceful", why didn't the "peaceful" members talk the rioters out of rioting?

    Possible explanations...
    A) the rioters were far too intimidating
    2) the "peaceful protesters" weren't peaceful after all
    C) all of the above

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by mossrose View Post
    I'm sorry this picture doesn't have the entire thing, but the message is there, from an attendee at the peaceful protest at Grace Life this past Sunday.

    gracelife protest.jpg
    Would have been nice to have seen some of this during the several months of rioting we endured last month. But in all of those cases it would have been at best a small group of Christians in the middle of a mob determined to loot and burn.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by mossrose View Post
    I'm sorry this picture doesn't have the entire thing, but the message is there, from an attendee at the peaceful protest at Grace Life this past Sunday.

    gracelife protest.jpg
    What a novel approach --- the Christians actually standing up and refusing to allow bad actors to pervert the peace!

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  • The Melody Maker
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    Well, today Pastor James faces off against the wicked provincial government and health authorities. Praying God is glorified in whatever the outcome is.

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  • mossrose
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    https://www.jccf.ca/court-permits-go...nh6HWAEiFoQjCA

    From the article:

    “After 13 months of violating Charter freedoms, the Alberta Government refuses to present evidence in support of lockdowns in Court, and unfortunately the courts have permitted the government to delay facing accountability in regard to Charter violations,” states lawyer John Carpay, President of the Justice Centre.

    “Justice delayed is justice denied. It is clear that the government’s approach to any challenge to its lockdown policies is to withhold the evidence and delay as long as it can,” continues Mr. Carpay.

    “We are now in our thirteenth month of Charter-violating lockdowns, in what was supposed to be a temporary two-week measure to flatten the curve. By May 3, the government will have had fourteen months to assemble proper medical and scientific evidence to justify lockdowns and the resulting violations of our fundamental Charter freedoms. For the Alberta Government to request that it not be required to provide evidence on May 3 in support of Dr. Hinshaw’s Orders, while at the same time barricading the church, is both reprehensible and pathetic,” states Mr. Carpay.

    “The Alberta government supposedly has enough medical and scientific evidence to shut down hundreds of small businesses, pushing many of them into bankruptcy, and to cancel over 20,000 medically necessary surgeries, and to force Albertans into a third lockdown. But when asked to produce this medical and scientific evidence at trial, the Alberta government declares itself incapable of doing so,” continues Mr. Carpay.

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  • mossrose
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    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    I wonder if these were "well intentioned" people thinking they were helping by tearing down the fences, or were they instigators wanting to make the Christians look bad? And if the latter, I wonder who put them up to it?
    Good question. I suspect the latter.

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