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Question about Colossians 3:16

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
    I hope you're right, CP.
    That has been my experience, but I realize it's totally... um... what's the word? Myopic? no... um.... (when it's just one small example of a bigger picture)
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”


    • #17
      Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

      Maybe its an indication that Christian lite is losing it's appeal and people are starting to look for something more substantive.
      Even the new forms of churches that came about, they tended to focus on community works and projects. Even though those can be a part of Christianity, the fellowship with each other, as Christians, is the more important aspect. However, it is hard to find churches on the west coast that really form a sense of community -- i.e., after the church gatherings are over.

      I think this was happening 10 years ago -- where people were seeking the origins of Christianity rather than modern Christianity. They were looking for stuff like Eastern Orthodoxy, Jewish roots, or New Testament church restoration.


      • #18
        Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
        We see in 1 Corinthians 14:26

        Individual Christians may have learned limited numbers of OT psalms. Each could share a different one or share one that is most appropriate to the situations they encounter. Also, Christians in the city may have learned hymns or teachings from their own travels or from travelers they encounter. Every joint supplies since each person gains different knowledge or perspectives, the latter option may be a better way to say it. Often commentators on Paul's writings will point out what they think was a hymn that briefly stated the qualities of Christ. These probably acted as memorization and teaching tools. The memorization may be supplemented by familiar sequence of ideas and by the rhythm and musical notes.

        That is good point. We could share with each other what we have learned from different songs.


        • #19
          Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

          Hi Jaxb,

          First, I agree with the other posters on the thread. They bring up good points.

          Now in response, first I think the verse speak against the worship as entertainment model that is all too common. There is an implication that each member of the congregation is involved in the praise and singing. So a worship is the congregation participating and not watching. To your question "...believers should gather corporately for worship." I would say the answer is yes.

          Second, I'll point out that when this verse was written and lead at Colossae, the New Testament was still being written. In fact since Colossians as I recall is usually listed as one of the earliest New Testament books written, there really wasn't a New Testament. When the passage says psalms, I suspect they mean the book of Psalms. Even though they are songs, the Psalms are theologically sound. Every preacher has probably preached out Psalms or underlined a point by quoting a Psalm. I do like the expression, "a good hymn is simply a sermon set to music." And while I agree that much of today's choruses are theologically light weight, I have found some that are meaningful and less slogan.

          Which gets us to your other question "our teaching and admonishment should be influenced by the songs that we sing" meaning we can learn about God, sin, Redemption, etc. from what we sing if we're singing the right songs. I do seem to recall hearing some conversation stories where a song was somehow involved.

          So like a lot of things in Christianity, the answer isn't one or the other but both. I would say that both interpretations you set out are correct.
          The Psalms are definitely theologically sound. There is so much that can be learned from them. They are filled with wonderful truths about God. I agree that many of today's choruses are theologically light weight.


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