For Obsidian

[robrecht]

It's in lots of places, actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerol...Church_Fathers

For Lateinos, yes, but it does not speak the Hebew gematria for this.

Here is the relevant section of Irenaeus: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.ix.vii.xxxi.html

[Obsidian]

It's in lots of places, actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerol...Church_Fathers

[robrecht]

The one I heard was "Lateinos"

OK, this seems to be the source: http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/666.htm

Have fun!

[Obsidian]

The one I heard was "Lateinos"

[robrecht]

I think the 666 in Revelation probably refers to the word "Roman," which adds up to 666 both in Hebrew and Greek. A beast in scripture generally refers to a kingdom, not an individual.

What word for 'Roman' are you using in Hebrew? What numerologic system are you using in Greek. I suspect your source on Greek numerology is manipulating things, which is easy to do once you go down the road of gematria and numerology.

Ῥωμαῖος
Ῥ = 100
ω = 800
μ = 40
α = 1
ῖ = 10
ο = 70
ς = 200
Total = 1221

If you leave out the more ancient Greek letters/numbers, and just use those letters that were in common use in the time that the book of Revelation was written, you could artificially come up with this:

Ῥ = 80
ω = 600
μ = 30
α = 1
ῖ = 9
ο = 60
ς = 90
Total = 890

[Obsidian]

I think it's weak, because Paul would not have referred to the temple that Jesus called "desolate" as though it were truly a "temple of God." Paul elsewhere stated that Christians are the temple of God.

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Also, Nero died well before any "coming" of Jesus. And there wasn't anything real noteworthy about his death, either. It was just a suicide. It didn't have anything to do with Christianity.

I think the 666 in Revelation probably refers to the word "Roman," which adds up to 666 both in Hebrew and Greek. A beast in scripture generally refers to a kingdom, not an individual.

[Littlejoe]

Wow! Great Article by Gentry!

[John Reece]

Obsidian, have you seen this?