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Jesus said He was the Good Shepherd
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostI believe Jesus really said this, and meant that we are the sheep, and he is our shepherd. I'm surprised your source didn't mention Psalm 23! The Lord is my Shepherd. It seems this source is making a mess of what should be plain Scripture.
Blessings,
Lee
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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostHypatia_Alexandria has refused to say what page number in John Ashton's book this interpolation is mentioned which leaves me to believe that Hypatia-Alexandria made it up.
The ball, as they say, is in your court. It might be sensible to make any reply on the Apologetics 301 board."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Dan Zebiri View PostAnd I would agree, indeed with you, Christian3."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostThere are different versions of Ashton's book. Type out the table of contents of the book you have or the start of the table of contents.
I am still waiting for you to provide any evidence for that comment."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostJohn 10: 11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep."
Someone said referring to this verse: "The phrase occurs in the periscope of John 10:1-21 and there are various interpretations for this passage and its imagery. It has been suggested that it is a later interpolation, along with chapter 6:15-17 and most of chapter 11. Other interpretations see it as the Johannine author’s adaptation of Matthew chapters 9&10. It can also be seen as continuing the shepherd tradition found in various books of the Septuagint [Zechariah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel]"
Is that true?
Thanks.
BTW: “periscope” should be “pericope”.
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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostJohn 10: 11 I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep."
Someone said referring to this verse: "The phrase occurs in the periscope of John 10:1-21 and there are various interpretations for this passage and its imagery. It has been suggested that it is a later interpolation, along with chapter 6:15-17 and most of chapter 11. Other interpretations see it as the Johannine authors adaptation of Matthew chapters 9&10. It can also be seen as continuing the shepherd tradition found in various books of the Septuagint [Zechariah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel]"
Is that true?
Thanks.
In the OT, Shepherdship over Israel, whether human or Divine, is associated with Kingship. Unsurprisingly, since the very same metaphor for kingship is recorded as having been used in Babylonia and Assyria - two nations familiar to Israel.
John 10 also echoes Isaiah 40 - JHWH is the shepherd of the “flock” of stars.
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