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This is where we come to delve into the biblical text. Theology is not our foremost thought, but we realize it is something that will be dealt with in nearly every conversation. Feel free to use the original languages to make your point (meaning Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic). This is an exegetical discussion area, so please limit topics to purely biblical ones.

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  • One Bad Pig
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    Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
    I have a parallel Bible with NIV and the Message. There are footnotes about variants in the NIV side. Message has none about the Johnanine Comma, but I do enjoy the different expression the Message gives.

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  • 37818
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    Thee, thy, thou and thine. Translations which use old English singular pronouns, are useful in that one does not need to know the Hebrew or the Greek to know the individual is being addressed and when the plural pronoun is being used.

    The ten commandments are addressed to the individual.

    The seven letters to the seven churches are addressed to each angel [messenger] of those churches.

    When Jesus addresses Nicodemus, addresses him as an individual, switches to plural when He says, "You must be born over." That everyone must be born over. See NIV note on this.

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  • DesertBerean
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    I have a parallel Bible with NIV and the Message. There are footnotes about variants in the NIV side. Message has none about the Johnanine Comma, but I do enjoy the different expression the Message gives.

    I would say every Christian must have a Bible with notes as discussed here, and perhaps some historical background as well.

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  • DesertBerean
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    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    You can try printing the audio files if you like.

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  • mikewhitney
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    I have appreciated the teaching of Steve Gregg. I've probably not heard the latest versions available now but suspect they are as similar to what he had taught before.

    http://www.thenarrowpath.com/

    The topical study on Isaiah was a big help to see the broad patterns going on.

    You can try printing the audio files if you like.
    Last edited by mikewhitney; 08-15-2018, 03:52 PM.

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  • 37818
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    The New King James has New Testament notes regarding most of the variant readings of note. The foot note would have either NU or M or both.
    N is for the Nestle Aland Greek New Testament reading, the U is for the United Bible Society New Testament reading. The M is for what was being regarded as the Majority Greek text reading. One does not need to know Greek to use this.

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  • mikewhitney
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    You might try An Introduction to the New Testament by Carson and Moo

    I was reading this:
    An Introduction to the New Testament: Contexts, Methods & Ministry Formation by deSilva

    And for Paul's writings I read:
    Rediscovering Paul by Capes and others

    These last two were a bit too basic for me but might be helpful to others. Also, these often emphasized New Perspective of Paul which may have messed up things as much as it helped.

    These all would require at least a knowledge of English.
    Last edited by mikewhitney; 08-14-2018, 04:32 PM.

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  • DesertBerean
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    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    Did you want commentaries, greek references, overview of NT, overview of NT, pauline epistles, or eschatology?
    stuff that the layperson can use easily without having to know languages . Historical stuff would be good too....

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Mom always said you shoulda been a doctor.



    Of course you wouldn't have singed your eyebrows off if you could read your own writing and didn't mistake potassium nitrite for potassium nitrate.
    What are you talking about? Possums don't migrate!

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I can print, but my cursive is faster, and less easy to read.
    Mom always said you shoulda been a doctor.



    Of course you wouldn't have singed your eyebrows off if you could read your own writing and didn't mistake potassium nitrite for potassium nitrate.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    Did you want commentaries, greek references, overview of NT, overview of NT, pauline epistles, or eschatology?
    OK

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    You need a printer for that.
    I can print, but my cursive is faster, and less easy to read.

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  • mikewhitney
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    Did you want commentaries, greek references, overview of NT, overview of NT, pauline epistles, or eschatology?

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  • mikewhitney
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    Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
    Interesting...no print sources?
    You need a printer for that.

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  • DesertBerean
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    Lol....and nevermind... there are a variety of media here!

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