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Numbers 5:21 - 22, Dark Meat, Anyone?

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    Numbers 5:21 - 22, Dark Meat, Anyone?

    This came up in another thread. The assertion is that the 'thigh' in 5:21 and 22 is referring to the woman's genitals. The NIV translates it as 'womb' but Strong's and ISBE don't seem to support that.

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/...gs=H3409&t=KJV

    So, what is the term referring to in this passage?

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    Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
    This came up in another thread. The assertion is that the 'thigh' in 5:21 and 22 is referring to the woman's genitals. The NIV translates it as 'womb' but Strong's and ISBE don't seem to support that.

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/...gs=H3409&t=KJV

    So, what is the term referring to in this passage?
    According to Jacob Milgrom in The JPS Torah Commentary: Numbers (Philadelphia: The Jewish Publication Society, 1990),
    "Thigh" probably is a euphemism for the procreative organs (...), thus referring to the physical inability to beget children (...).

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      Okay, thanks. Hmmm....
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        Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
        This came up in another thread. The assertion is that the 'thigh' in 5:21 and 22 is referring to the woman's genitals. The NIV translates it as 'womb' but Strong's and ISBE don't seem to support that.
        http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/...gs=H3409&t=KJV
        So, what is the term referring to in this passage?
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        http://biblehub.com/hebrew/3409.htm
        Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance
        body, loins, shaft, side, thigh
        From an unused root meaning to be soft; the thigh (from its fleshy softness); by euphem. The generative parts; figuratively, a shank, flank, side -- X body, loins, shaft, side, thigh.
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          FF, I posted that - didn't dispute the possible understanding of genitalia (although it cannot be every case because it makes no sense). The question is what it means in the actual passage - and John posted a support for part of your reading.


          It hasn't proven the abortion case by a long shot but I want to think about it before framing the next question.
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            Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
            FF, I posted that - didn't dispute the possible understanding of genitalia (although it cannot be every case because it makes no sense). The question is what it means in the actual passage - and John posted a support for part of your reading.
            It hasn't proven the abortion case by a long shot but I want to think about it before framing the next question.
            No problem. I am sitting on my hands.
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            “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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