Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

An Atheist Steps Up....

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • An Atheist Steps Up....

    I know a number of people who are atheists who are pretty nice people.

    One such friend heard me talking about the fact that one of our Church members who volunteers a lot at our Church will be unable to do so, because her husband has become critically ill, and has been brought home from the hospital for hospice care. He may not live more than another month or so.

    This friend (we'll call him Tom) stopped by my office and made a very gracious offer. "I know Helen can't get away much from Roger, and I also know how much it means for her to be in Church..... could you tell her I'll be happy to sit with Roger any time she needs to be at Church, or wants to do her volunteer stuff?"

    I've talked to Helen, and she did not immediately say no, which is a good thing. (She's quite old fashioned, and I expected a bit of pushback)

    Tom told me, "if she hesitates, tell her I'll even read the Bible to him".

    God is SO good.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

  • #2

    "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot


    "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

    My Personal Blog

    My Novella blog (Current Novella Begins on 7/25/14)

    Comment


    • #3
      cool.

      Comment


      • #4
        An interesting aside to this... my youngest daughter is a hospice nurse, and she lives right around the corner - literally - from Roger and Helen. She has been assigned as Roger's hospice nurse. The only downside of that is that neither she nor I can share information with the other regarding Roger, except in the most general terms, due to patient confidentiality.
        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          I know a number of people who are atheists who are pretty nice people.

          One such friend heard me talking about the fact that one of our Church members who volunteers a lot at our Church will be unable to do so, because her husband has become critically ill, and has been brought home from the hospital for hospice care. He may not live more than another month or so.

          This friend (we'll call him Tom) stopped by my office and made a very gracious offer. "I know Helen can't get away much from Roger, and I also know how much it means for her to be in Church..... could you tell her I'll be happy to sit with Roger any time she needs to be at Church, or wants to do her volunteer stuff?"

          I've talked to Helen, and she did not immediately say no, which is a good thing. (She's quite old fashioned, and I expected a bit of pushback)

          Tom told me, "if she hesitates, tell her I'll even read the Bible to him".

          God is SO good.
          Actually, I think you mean 'Tom' is so good.
          “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

          Comment


          • #6
            Tom, unlike you, evidently knows how to play nice. Why do you have to be like that?

            "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot


            "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

            My Personal Blog

            My Novella blog (Current Novella Begins on 7/25/14)

            Comment


            • #7
              There are also atheists who are pleasant people. You are not one of them.
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                Tom, unlike you, evidently knows how to play nice. Why do you have to be like that?
                Tom the atheist seems a decent guy who does kind things without reference to God; he's an atheist after all. So why give credit to a deity? Tom wouldn't and nor would I.
                “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                  Tom the atheist seems a decent guy who does kind things without reference to God; he's an atheist after all. So why give credit to a deity? Tom wouldn't and nor would I.
                  Because CP is neither Tom nor you. The only explanation I can imagine for your apparent lack of comprehension is that you just plain don't understand either theology or normal people.
                  Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                    Because CP is neither Tom nor you. The only explanation I can imagine for your apparent lack of comprehension is that you just plain don't understand either theology or normal people.
                    Whatever!
                    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                      Actually, I think you mean 'Tom' is so good.
                      No, Tom is OK. God is Good. God is using Tom to accomplish God's purpose.
                      "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                        Tom the atheist seems a decent guy who does kind things without reference to God;
                        You don't know Tom. OR Jack. Tom is showing great respect for my faith, and seems to be "softening" to the possibility that what we have is real.

                        he's an atheist after all.
                        Not for long.

                        So why give credit to a deity?
                        It's like my former Executive Assistant who was an atheist lesbian Jewish liberal... one day she came into my office and closed the door, and asked, "What if you're right and I'm wrong?" There's HOPE!

                        Tom wouldn't and nor would I.
                        Tom might -- I suspect you never will.
                        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          There's times to argue against religious belief. When those beliefs are providing comfort to someone with a dying spouse ... not so much.

                          I may be a jerk, but I'm not a ... yeah, that line from Seth to Katie at the end of From Dusk Till Dawn.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
                            There's times to argue against religious belief. When those beliefs are providing comfort to someone with a dying spouse ... not so much.
                            Well said.

                            And this is a case that has come on rather suddenly. Her husband (they'd been married probably 50+ years) had recently acquired (developed?) dementia, and was getting quite difficult for Helen to handle. He would be enraged when he would wake up from a nap and discover she had gone to Church, either for worship or to volunteer. She would even leave a note in a prominent place, but he would never see - or admit to seeing - it. This all started happening just in the past few months. Prior to that, Roger would have been at Church WITH her, but something "snapped" in his head.

                            As a matter of fact, it was discovered that he had a brain tumor, and was being examined for that when he suddenly had a heart problem during the exam, and had to have a pace maker installed. From there (a little over a week ago) he just "went to sleep", like a self-induced coma or something. The doctors say there's no real medical reason for it -- it's like he has just given up, and is not fighting. His kidneys are shutting down, his breathing is abdominal instead of chest.... hence, hospice.

                            Tom is an interesting case. Although he claims (claimed?) to be an atheist, he seems to really enjoy being around me. I met him through my position as Police Chaplain, and he was my self-appointed antagonist. He's a retired fireman, now volunteering as a reserve police officer. He loves needling me about my "religion", but he keeps hanging around me, and has taken a very active role in a mission project we're doing for a retired couple needing some construction.

                            He simply has a heart to serve.
                            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Well said.

                              And this is a case that has come on rather suddenly. Her husband (they'd been married probably 50+ years) had recently acquired (developed?) dementia, and was getting quite difficult for Helen to handle. He would be enraged when he would wake up from a nap and discover she had gone to Church, either for worship or to volunteer. She would even leave a note in a prominent place, but he would never see - or admit to seeing - it. This all started happening just in the past few months. Prior to that, Roger would have been at Church WITH her, but something "snapped" in his head.

                              As a matter of fact, it was discovered that he had a brain tumor, and was being examined for that when he suddenly had a heart problem during the exam, and had to have a pace maker installed. From there (a little over a week ago) he just "went to sleep", like a self-induced coma or something. The doctors say there's no real medical reason for it -- it's like he has just given up, and is not fighting. His kidneys are shutting down, his breathing is abdominal instead of chest.... hence, hospice.

                              Tom is an interesting case. Although he claims (claimed?) to be an atheist, he seems to really enjoy being around me. I met him through my position as Police Chaplain, and he was my self-appointed antagonist. He's a retired fireman, now volunteering as a reserve police officer. He loves needling me about my "religion", but he keeps hanging around me, and has taken a very active role in a mission project we're doing for a retired couple needing some construction.

                              He simply has a heart to serve.
                              And when Tom dies God will annihilate or eternally tortue him for his non belief. Its no wonder he doesn't believe in such a God!

                              Comment

                              Related Threads

                              Collapse

                              Topics Statistics Last Post
                              Started by Whateverman, 10-03-2020, 07:18 PM
                              1 response
                              25 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post mikewhitney  
                              Started by Andius, 09-30-2020, 07:59 PM
                              16 responses
                              73 views
                              1 like
                              Last Post Cerebrum123  
                              Started by DesertBerean, 08-20-2020, 04:19 PM
                              72 responses
                              1,419 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post DesertBerean  
                              Started by KingsGambit, 07-28-2020, 08:34 PM
                              3 responses
                              513 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post rogue06
                              by rogue06
                               
                              Started by DesertBerean, 07-14-2020, 09:13 PM
                              19 responses
                              1,754 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post DesertBerean  
                              Working...
                              X