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  • #46
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Been in Chicago several times. Got stuck in rush hour traffic on a Friday once (got out of the car, went and used the bathroom in a gas station and when I returned the car had moved no more than a hundred feet). And I've had a hot dog there with ketchup only when we decided to chill for awhile and let the traffic die down a bit. So been there, done that.
    I've seen places where you can put ketchup on your hot dog in Chicago. Not reputable places, though. Probably water their beer, too. But whatever it was you had, if it had ketchup on it, it wasn't a Chicago dog.
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    Legendary Chicago newspaper columnist Mike Royko did admit that, if anyone wanted to put ketchup on their hot dog, they would have the right to do so, but went on to clarify his opinion: "It is also their right to put mayo or chocolate syrup or toenail clippings or cat hair on a hot dog. Sure, it would be disgusting and perverted, and they would be shaming themselves and their loved ones. But under our system of government, it is their right to be barbarians"

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

      I've seen places where you can put ketchup on your hot dog in Chicago. Not reputable places, though. Probably water their beer, too. But whatever it was you had, if it had ketchup on it, it wasn't a Chicago dog.
      .
      Legendary Chicago newspaper columnist Mike Royko did admit that, if anyone wanted to put ketchup on their hot dog, they would have the right to do so, but went on to clarify his opinion: "It is also their right to put mayo or chocolate syrup or toenail clippings or cat hair on a hot dog. Sure, it would be disgusting and perverted, and they would be shaming themselves and their loved ones. But under our system of government, it is their right to be barbarians"
      A friend of mine who is from Chicago refers to a Chicago hot dog as a "garbage dog" and he didn't mean it is a disparaging way. He explained it as putting nearly anything you could find on it. Most of what they put on it I don't care for hence why I get it with ketchup only although I will occasionally get one with sauerkraut.


      As an aside, being you teach the black arts that is math, how would you react to the following (understanding that your students are a good bit older, so consider the age of the person here):


      when-shes-not-wrong.jpg

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #48
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Seinfeld had its Soup Nazi. Tweb has its Taco Nazi.
        As TWeb's token Latin (unless another pops up), I feel it my duty uptake that mantle.
        Can't have them messing up Tacos around here.
        Ladino, Guatemalan, Hispanic, and Latin, but foremostly, Christian.
        As of the 1st of December, 2020, officially anointed as this:

        "Seinfeld had its Soup Nazi. Tweb has its Taco Nazi." - Rogue06 , https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...e3#post1210559

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Andius View Post

          As TWeb's token Latin (unless another pops up), I feel it my duty uptake that mantle.
          Can't have them messing up Tacos around here.
          taconazi.jpg

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #50

            My Ninja Squirrel Assassins have uncovered this picture of Andius:

            36f36d4c46139958eda09fa8f1a20d7c.jpg

            Exactly as I suspected

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #51
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              My Ninja Squirrel Assassins have uncovered this picture of Andius:

              36f36d4c46139958eda09fa8f1a20d7c.jpg

              Exactly as I suspected
              And I just received this image of his tacos!

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #52
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                My Ninja Squirrel Assassins have uncovered this picture of Andius:

                36f36d4c46139958eda09fa8f1a20d7c.jpg

                Exactly as I suspected
                Utter slander and balderdash!
                I'm a far better dresser for starters. More stylish for starters as the good Latin man that I am. Your squirrely minions need their intel straightened, Let me give a few references what a Taco loving ruler dresses like:

                800px-Agustin_I_of_Mexico.jpg800px-Emperor_Agustin_I_kroningsportret.JPG

                And more royally Mexican I dare say. That is how I'd enforce my regime of protecting true taconess.

                And I just received this image of his tacos!
                A TRUE taco needs no stinking wrapper! That's what the tortilla is for. Henceforth, those aren't REAL tacos. So HAH! Nice try

                Ladino, Guatemalan, Hispanic, and Latin, but foremostly, Christian.
                As of the 1st of December, 2020, officially anointed as this:

                "Seinfeld had its Soup Nazi. Tweb has its Taco Nazi." - Rogue06 , https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...e3#post1210559

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  A friend of mine who is from Chicago refers to a Chicago hot dog as a "garbage dog" and he didn't mean it is a disparaging way. He explained it as putting nearly anything you could find on it. Most of what they put on it I don't care for hence why I get it with ketchup only although I will occasionally get one with sauerkraut.
                  Garbage dog is widely used, too. But it's not just "anything you can find." It's a horde of garnishes where everybody gets a peck at your taste buds. Add ketchup to that mix, and the only thing you'll taste is ketchup. Now that, right there, that, is why only barbarians put ketchup on a Chicago dog. It's not an affectation. It really does wreck the taste.

                  If it's a taste you want to wreck, meh, but then why bother getting a Chicago dog.

                  As an aside, being you teach the black arts that is math, how would you react to the following (understanding that your students are a good bit older, so consider the age of the person here):

                  when-shes-not-wrong.jpg
                  I regularly deny any credit for correct answers. Occasionally, I give full credit for incorrect answers. Quite often, I give partial credit to a student who's recognized their answer is wrong, but is jammed up on finding where they went wrong. I literally ask them to write me a note on the paper saying why they know their answer is wrong.

                  Points won't pass you in my classes. I credit mastery of the material, as demonstrated by work. Knowing your answer is wrong demonstrates mastery, in part, anyway, if it's for a valid reason.

                  That image is little-kid funny. It's not funny in college, not to me, and more pointedly, not to their fellow students. These people paid for instruction, just like a theater patron paid for the show. You're tossing popcorn at the movies, you need to go. A student cutting up in front of the class would be asked to leave and receive an instructor withdrawal immediately afterwards, for disruption.

                  Go fight with my chair, I'm done with ya.

                  That's actually happened, by the way, twice, over twelve years, so it's really rare. On both occasions my chair asked me to re-admit them. On both occasions, I refused. The guy in the pic doesn't have that privilege. I do.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                    Garbage dog is widely used, too. But it's not just "anything you can find." It's a horde of garnishes where everybody gets a peck at your taste buds. Add ketchup to that mix, and the only thing you'll taste is ketchup. Now that, right there, that, is why only barbarians put ketchup on a Chicago dog. It's not an affectation. It really does wreck the taste.

                    If it's a taste you want to wreck, meh, but then why bother getting a Chicago dog.
                    For me mustard is infinitely better than ketchup at drowning out the taste of everything else and yet it is copiously added to a Chicago dog.

                    Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                    I regularly deny any credit for correct answers.
                    Gotta feel superior I guess

                    Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                    Occasionally, I give full credit for incorrect answers. Quite often, I give partial credit to a student who's recognized their answer is wrong, but is jammed up on finding where they went wrong. I literally ask them to write me a note on the paper saying why they know their answer is wrong.

                    Points won't pass you in my classes. I credit mastery of the material, as demonstrated by work. Knowing your answer is wrong demonstrates mastery, in part, anyway, if it's for a valid reason.

                    That image is little-kid funny. It's not funny in college, not to me, and more pointedly, not to their fellow students. These people paid for instruction, just like a theater patron paid for the show. You're tossing popcorn at the movies, you need to go. A student cutting up in front of the class would be asked to leave and receive an instructor withdrawal immediately afterwards, for disruption.

                    Go fight with my chair, I'm done with ya.

                    That's actually happened, by the way, twice, over twelve years, so it's really rare. On both occasions my chair asked me to re-admit them. On both occasions, I refused. The guy in the pic doesn't have that privilege. I do.
                    That's why I specifically added the last part: "understanding that your students are a good bit older, so consider the age of the person here."

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      For me mustard is infinitely better than ketchup at drowning out the taste of everything else and yet it is copiously added to a Chicago dog.
                      It's the sugar in ketchup that wrecks the flavor.

                      Gotta feel superior I guess
                      Why do all my friends think I love terrorizing my students? These are my kids. The greatest barrier to their success is the belief they're not good enough. They arrive with that, and I spend the entire semester with them looking for ways to overcome that disability.

                      Try to imagine you're a professor, and ask yourself why you might not want to award credit for a correct answer.

                      There are a lot of ways to arrive at a correct answer, not least of which is the process I call "inappropriate cooperation." (I never, ever, use the "ch" word.) To the extent it's helpful, I go out of my way to encourage appropriate cooperation. I've piloted peer tutoring programs at three campuses, now, and I regularly deliver "informal assessments," for credit, where the entire class becomes a "phone a friend" pool, but there comes a point you have to show you can fly on your own.

                      It's possible to just guess, without really understanding why that guess is right. That's not mastery, and doesn't contribute to mastery, either. In fact, it's counter-productive. And then there's the wrong methods that nonetheless arrive at the right answers.

                      2020-12-04_09-56-40.jpg

                      Not wishing to discount my applied math colleagues, the vast majority of the theory of mathematics is entirely abstract, with a "purity" judged, and valued in part for its lack of application. When algebraic number theory became a popular subject in cybersecurity, some of us saw it as a personal tragedy, marring the pristine beauty of the art form. I watched it happen, wistfully thinking of George Boole whose algebra wasn't vulgarized to meet the needs of computer scientists until well after his demise.

                      It's the abstraction itself that's valuable.

                      The basic algebraic manipulation skills I teach will come in handy for them in all of their future science classes. So there's that, but I teach more than that, when I'm successful. What's going to come in handy for everything they do in the rest of their lives is the ability to take a complex problem apart, breaking it into simpler problems you can tackle one by one, and then putting the pieces back together. That's what I'm grading when I ask them to "show their work," and when I reinforce that, saying, "no work, no credit."

                      That's why I specifically added the last part: "understanding that your students are a good bit older, so consider the age of the person here."
                      I defended in February 93, but couldn't be awarded my degree until the end of the term, in May, leaving me with a few months footloose and fancy free. I applied as a substitute teacher for Chicago Public Schools, visited high schools around the city — some of which were beaucoup scary. You should see the teachers in those schools. They looked like crime victims, they were that emotionally battered. Run down buildings, no administrative support, and kids who didn't want to be there, and let 'em know it.

                      That image reminds me of those folks, schlubs working a job, with what passion they have left devoted to anything other than teaching.

                      I'm all in favor of inspired creativity in a student's work, but that's not what I'm seeing in those answers. Now if the girl or boy had named the oval, "Ophelia," and the rectangle, "Ricardo," and the hexagon, "Hexes" ... Yeah, I'd allow that.

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                      • #56

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #57
                          The best kinda taco

                          tacos.jpgoven-baked-beef-tacos-1.jpg

                          Although I prefer using the white cheese like queso blanco

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            The best kinda taco

                            tacos.jpgoven-baked-beef-tacos-1.jpg

                            Although I prefer using the white cheese like queso blanco
                            Why you tempt me with such delicious heresy.... (I'll grant that they look delicious you old fossil... )
                            Ladino, Guatemalan, Hispanic, and Latin, but foremostly, Christian.
                            As of the 1st of December, 2020, officially anointed as this:

                            "Seinfeld had its Soup Nazi. Tweb has its Taco Nazi." - Rogue06 , https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...e3#post1210559

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Andius View Post

                              Why you tempt me with such delicious heresy.... (I'll grant that they look delicious you old fossil... )

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #60
                                For the record, flour tortillas are a legitimate part of Northern Mexican and Tejano cuisine: https://www.splendidtable.org/story/...stavo-arellano

                                Though I mostly go for soft corn on my tacos and leave flour for burritos these days. Unless I'm at Rosa's with their fresh flour tortillas. Mmm.

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                                Christ our Passover has been sacrificed for us. Therefore let us keep the feast.

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