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  • Sparko
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    Originally posted by Adrift View Post
    So we'll get a good decade or so out of the genre until they squeeze it dry and make us hate it, and then on to the next thing. Sigh...maybe it'll all circle round eventually and in 20 years from now Westerns will be all the rage again.
    All it takes is one success. Hollyweird is not known for their creativity. I have seen various crime shows like CSI or NCIS etc all use the same basic plot, usually ripped from the news, all while denying that is what they did. "any resemblance to actual people or events is purely coincidental." yeah, right.

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  • Adrift
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    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    TV is like that. Once a genre is shown to be popular, the networks start tossing stuff at the wall and see what sticks. Like westerns back in the 60's. Or sitcoms in the 80's and crime shows for the last 20 years, and recently reality shows.
    So we'll get a good decade or so out of the genre until they squeeze it dry and make us hate it, and then on to the next thing. Sigh...maybe it'll all circle round eventually and in 20 years from now Westerns will be all the rage again.

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  • Cerebrum123
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    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    TV is like that. Once a genre is shown to be popular, the networks start tossing stuff at the wall and see what sticks. Like westerns back in the 60's. Or sitcoms in the 80's and crime shows for the last 20 years, and recently reality shows.
    Don't forget the recent zombie craze.

    Although technically that was more movies than TV, but I think you get my point.

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  • Sparko
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    Originally posted by Adrift View Post
    No, I did not know that. Sounds great. Hopefully all of these superhero shows coming on all at once doesn't turn people off of the genre.
    TV is like that. Once a genre is shown to be popular, the networks start tossing stuff at the wall and see what sticks. Like westerns back in the 60's. Or sitcoms in the 80's and crime shows for the last 20 years, and recently reality shows.

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  • Adrift
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    You do know that they are doing a new Heroes, right? The Peacock has ordered 13 episodes of Heroes: Reborn, an "event miniseries" that'll be helmed by original Heroes creator Tim Kring and air sometime in 2015.
    No, I did not know that. Sounds great. Hopefully all of these superhero shows coming on all at once doesn't turn people off of the genre.

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  • Bill the Cat
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    Originally posted by Adrift View Post
    Sylar should have died at the end of season 1, and then come back somehow in like, season 5. By forcing him to be the main villain throughout, they took away what was so special about him. Also, they had no idea what to do with Peter once he became super powerful. I liked that he was super powerful. They just needed a storyline that had him dealing with that, or with villains who were as powerful. Also the fact that they never gave us the Hiro they promised was super frustrating. I wanted to see a kick-butt future samurai who could time travel, but that never materialized. Also, the storyline with Nikki Sanders and her triplet sisters was really confusing. They should have just killed her character off, and then just ended it, or they should have hinted way earlier that she was a triplet, or something. Whatever. It didn't work.

    The problem with the show was that originally it was supposed to be a different group of superheros every season, but when audiences showed so much love for the original team, they decided to the jettison that idea and stick with what they had. I think I would have disliked a series that changed up like that every season, but I think it could have worked if they did cameos of previous heroes, or if they had all the heroes fighting some epic battle against a bunch of villains in a future season.

    Its sad that we have more superhero shows than ever before, but none of them really capture the magic of Heroes season 1. Alphas came very close, but then they canceled it on a cliffhanger in season 2.
    You do know that they are doing a new Heroes, right? The Peacock has ordered 13 episodes of Heroes: Reborn, an "event miniseries" that'll be helmed by original Heroes creator Tim Kring and air sometime in 2015.

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  • Bill the Cat
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    Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
    And why did Kate have to be so incredibly annoying, in every episode?
    That's Evangeline Lily for you.

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  • mossrose
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    Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
    And why did Kate have to be so incredibly annoying, in every episode?
    That!

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  • Zymologist
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    Originally posted by mossrose View Post
    When did Aaron die?

    What happened to the dog?

    Was Ben not dead at the end? Is that why he wasn't in the chapel at the end?

    When did Hugo die? Didn't he and Ben stay on the island after Jack died to look after the place.

    And why did Kate have to be so incredibly annoying, in every episode?

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  • Zymologist
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    The first time I watched Lost, I thought it was awesome.

    The second time I watched Lost, I thought it was...somewhat less awesome. In fact, it began to irritate me so much that it became a real chore to just finish it.

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  • Adrift
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    Originally posted by T-Shirt Ninja View Post
    The only reason I kept watching that show was Sylar. His character was fascinating and very conflicted with himself. Zachary Quinto nailed it with superb acting. I'll give the reboot a chance but I'm a bit skeptical.
    Sylar should have died at the end of season 1, and then come back somehow in like, season 5. By forcing him to be the main villain throughout, they took away what was so special about him. Also, they had no idea what to do with Peter once he became super powerful. I liked that he was super powerful. They just needed a storyline that had him dealing with that, or with villains who were as powerful. Also the fact that they never gave us the Hiro they promised was super frustrating. I wanted to see a kick-butt future samurai who could time travel, but that never materialized. Also, the storyline with Nikki Sanders and her triplet sisters was really confusing. They should have just killed her character off, and then just ended it, or they should have hinted way earlier that she was a triplet, or something. Whatever. It didn't work.

    The problem with the show was that originally it was supposed to be a different group of superheros every season, but when audiences showed so much love for the original team, they decided to the jettison that idea and stick with what they had. I think I would have disliked a series that changed up like that every season, but I think it could have worked if they did cameos of previous heroes, or if they had all the heroes fighting some epic battle against a bunch of villains in a future season.

    Its sad that we have more superhero shows than ever before, but none of them really capture the magic of Heroes season 1. Alphas came very close, but then they canceled it on a cliffhanger in season 2.

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  • Adrift
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    Originally posted by mossrose View Post
    I hated Twin Peaks.

    Its not for everyone.

    For some reason I never watched the series when it was on. I was in my teens, so I was the perfect demographic for it, but I guess I just never thought much about it, but I LOVED the movie (Fire Walk With Me). I've watched that film probably 10 times. Its so dark, and so deep...There is a lot of rich spiritual symbolism in that film that I'm not sure Lynch is fully consciously aware of. I watched the series years later, and really liked it, but its pretty dated now. It rarely went to some of the darker places that the film does, but I don't think they would have been able to in the early 90s when it was on air. With shows like Hannibal, and Breaking Bad setting the stage, that shouldn't be a problem at all now.

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  • T-Shirt Ninja
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Heroes worked until the writer's strike. Once they had to start rushing the scripts to catch up, they painted themselves into a terrible corner.
    The only reason I kept watching that show was Sylar. His character was fascinating and very conflicted with himself. Zachary Quinto nailed it with superb acting. I'll give the reboot a chance but I'm a bit skeptical.

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  • mossrose
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    I hated Twin Peaks.

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  • Bill the Cat
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    Originally posted by T-Shirt Ninja View Post
    My understanding is that they had the overall plot in mind but a lot of fleshing out of details had to be done as time went on. I think it was well done. Other shows that tried that failed miserably (I'm looking at you, Heroes, and all of your nonsense plot holes).
    Heroes worked until the writer's strike. Once they had to start rushing the scripts to catch up, they painted themselves into a terrible corner.

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