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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    I don't see androids on the poll.
    Me, too!
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Just bend over, you'll see them soon enough...
      "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

      "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

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      • #18
        I was a non-theist (read agnostic) when I became anti abortion. Since I ain't now I can't vote.
        Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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        • #19
          Christian is on the list...
          "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

          "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

          My Personal Blog

          My Novella blog (Current Novella Begins on 7/25/14)

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          • #20
            I voted atheist. Non-theist would probably be most appropriate.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by CMD View Post
              I voted atheist. Non-theist would probably be most appropriate.

              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              If the person who voted "atheist" wishes their vote to remain "atheist" rather than "agnostic", I will change it back, or perhaps they prefer "non-theist". Just PM me.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by CMD View Post
                I voted atheist. Non-theist would probably be most appropriate.
                Your wish is my command! (but don't push your luck, buster!)
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  I don't see androids on the poll.
                  I had my androids removed when they took my tonsils out back when I was a young'un.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #24
                    Meanwhile, there's no option in the Poll for Sparko being a poopiehead.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Meanwhile, there's no option in the Poll for Sparko being a poopiehead.
                      That's cuz I am not.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
                        Personally, I'm pro-birth control.
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Me, too! If you don't want babies, control yourself*!
                        That would work for me, if it worked. But it doesn't, so I support more robust options.

                        *obviously the notable exception is women forced against their will to engage in sex.
                        I consider that an extreme case of a more general problem: lack of control. Most kids aren't wired up right for self-control, and less than half of them are growing up with the double-parental control that could replace it. It's better to fix the problem you've got rather than the problem you wish you had, I'm thinking.

                        The most reliable information on abortion I can find comes from the Guttmacher Institute. All but a tiny fraction of abortions come from unintended pregnancies, and nearly all of them come from unprotected sex.

                        IB-UP-contraception-works.gif

                        There are folks who call themselves pro-life who are also anti-birth control. One contradicts the other.

                        As ever, Jesse

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          That's cuz I am not.
                          Wait, that's my line.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
                            There are folks who call themselves pro-life who are also anti-birth control. One contradicts the other.
                            Meh.... not necessarily. I mean, yeah, there ARE people who are both, but a lot of us (don't know the percentage) are against the birth control that terminates the development of the fertilized egg. THAT is not self contradictory.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Meh.... not necessarily. I mean, yeah, there ARE people who are both, but a lot of us (don't know the percentage) are against the birth control that terminates the development of the fertilized egg. THAT is not self contradictory.
                              It's important to differentiate between such methods correctly. For instance, all of the methods at issue in the Hobby Lobby case work by preventing ovulation. So it's quite possible to think one is against "birth control that terminates the development of the fertilized egg" while actually being against birth control that doesn't. I don't question their sincerity, just their science. Scored by intention, it's not self-contradictory. But in practice, the bottom line is that it's sure to increase the number of abortions.

                              I had exactly one "abortion" thread on the pre-crash TWeb. I think I titled it "Two out of three ain't good," referring to the trinity "safe, legal, and rare." I'm wondering if you ever read it?

                              As ever, Jesse

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                                I don't see androids on the poll.
                                I just voted with my Android.
                                βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον
                                ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

                                אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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