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  • #76
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

    Gas hits $7 in Virginia

    We went from being energy independent for the first time in many decades to having gas shortages in a little over four months.
    sounds like price gouging to me.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      sounds like price gouging to me.
      It is one way to insure that folks who really need some can get it rather than it all being used to top off already full tanks until there is none left

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #78
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

        Gas hits $7 in Virginia

        We went from being energy independent for the first time in many decades to having gas shortages in a little over four months.
        Yeah, because there was no indication of vulnerability to cyber attack before Biden took office, and he should have been able to eliminate that vulnerability in less than 4 months.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Stoic View Post

          Yeah, because there was no indication of vulnerability to cyber attack before Biden took office, and he should have been able to eliminate that vulnerability in less than 4 months.
          This isn't the only reason that gas prices have been steadily going up since he was elected.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #80
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

            It is one way to insure that folks who really need some can get it rather than it all being used to top off already full tanks until there is none left
            price gouging is illegal though. Especially gas price gouging. It's usually done to take advantage of people, rather than out of the goodness of their heart to protect the supply. The easiest way to do that would be to limit the amount one can purchase at a time.

            Only pirates should price gouge. Did I mention I am selling a gallon for $50/6 rolls of TP/3 2x4s?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Stoic View Post

              Yeah, because there was no indication of vulnerability to cyber attack before Biden took office, and he should have been able to eliminate that vulnerability in less than 4 months.
              The hackers smell weakness.

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              • #82
                One station in my town ran out and instead of taking the price down on the sign, the employee on duty changed it to $9.98, immediately triggering media reports of price gouging. Oops.
                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                  price gouging is illegal though. Especially gas price gouging. It's usually done to take advantage of people, rather than out of the goodness of their heart to protect the supply. The easiest way to do that would be to limit the amount one can purchase at a time.

                  Only pirates should price gouge. Did I mention I am selling a gallon for $50/6 rolls of TP/3 2x4s?
                  When folks are literally topping off their tanks after even short trips, limiting the amount you can buy won't help because all they can put in their tanks are a gallon or so.

                  $7/gallon for a few gallons is something that someone who really is in need of a couple gallons will pay, while those who merely want to fill up a half dozen gas cans they just bought so they can horde it as well as those who already topped off their tank twice that day already, would pass on.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                    The hackers smell weakness.
                    Just like everyone else.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      This isn't the only reason that gas prices have been steadily going up since he was elected.
                      An interesting perspective.

                      Source: When the Media Used a Gas Crisis to Bash a President


                      If the media wanted to slam President Joe Biden for the jump in gas prices (that spiked due to a hacking of Colonial Pipeline) they have ample reasons to criticize him. They could highlight everything from the Biden’s “baffling” response to his anti-fossil fuel policies and decision to kill the Keystone XL pipeline.

                      Back in 2005 and 2006 liberal network and cable journalists hiked up their attacks on President George W. Bush and Big Oil “greed” for an increase in gas prices. It got so silly even multimillionaire anchors like former Today co-host Katie Couric spouted absurdities like: “I had to take out a loan to fill up my minivan. It’s crazy.” Then-NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams blurted that consumers “needed to refinance” their “homes” to refill the gas tank.

                      To remind NewsBusters readers just how tough the current media climate COULD BE on Biden we offer the following look at the most absurd outbursts of gas price hype from 2005-2006:

                      Poor Katie Needs Gas Money
                      Co-host Matt Lauer: “Pain at the pump. Gas prices are going sky high. I paid $2.94 a gallon over the weekend to fill up the car.”
                      Co-host Katie Couric: “It’s ridiculous. I had to take out a loan to fill up my minivan. It’s crazy.”
                      — Exchange at the top of NBC’s Today, August 15, 2005. At the time, Couric made about $15,000,000 a year.



                      He Must Have a Really Huge Tank
                      “The pumps were quickly shut down amid fears that oil company profits might plummet. But for one brief, shining moment, we the consumers won. It was like the old days, before you needed to refinance your home to refill your tank.”
                      — NBC’s Brian Williams, who makes an estimated $4 million a year, concluding an August 22, 2006 Nightly News story about an Illinois gas station whose computers accidentally set gas prices at 30 cents per gallon instead of $3.09.



                      High Prices Bush’s “Responsibility”
                      “I’m a little peeved when I hear the President say there’s not much we can do about this [gas prices], folks....Where is his responsibility in all this? Five and a half years, and we’re dealing with these gas prices? It’s ridiculous.”
                      — ABC’s Meredith Vieira on The View, April 26, 2006.



                      Ridiculous Gas Price Hype
                      “Across the nation, gas prices went to record highs today....Will it get to the point that only the privileged can afford gas?”
                      — John Blackstone on the CBS Evening News, August 11, 2005.



                      Enough of this Free Market Crap
                      “What can you, and what can the President do, to help people, because the prices are clearly spiraling out of control?...What about a national price cap? There are some people who say, gas is going to cost us $3 a gallon, the average will be $3 a gallon by the end of the week - by next week. What about a national price cap?”
                      — CNN’s Soledad O’Brien to Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman on American Morning, August 31, 2005.



                      Upset by Bush’s Visit to “Big Oil”
                      “Today they sent him [President Bush] to the Chevron refinery in Pascagoula, Mississippi, as if reminding everybody of his oil connections and the government’s oil connections was not among the worst things he could do right now. Where did the political sharpshooters in this administration go?”
                      — MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann to Chris Matthews on the September 15, 2005 Countdown about 10 minutes before the President’s speech in New Orleans.



                      The Media’s War Against Big Oil
                      “As Americans struggle to keep up with high gas prices, oil companies are reporting record earnings. Is this a case of corporate greed out of control?”
                      — Co-host Rene Syler on CBS’s The Early Show, April 27, 2006.

                      “Arlen Specter says Congress should consider taxing the windfall profits being reaped by the oil companies, which I think is a no-brainer. These guys aren’t entrepreneurs - they are pirates.”
                      — Geraldo Rivera on Fox’s Geraldo at Large, April 24, 2006.


                      Source

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                      But don't let anyone dare hold old Joe to a similar standard. That would be unfair.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        This isn't the only reason that gas prices have been steadily going up since he was elected.
                        Of course not. Prices always go up during an economic recovery. But we were talking about gas shortages.

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                        • #87
                          Biden's energy sec says 'pipe is best way' to transport fuel, sparks backlash regarding Keystone XL pipeline
                          https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jen...mment-backlash


                          oopsie.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            Biden's energy sec says 'pipe is best way' to transport fuel, sparks backlash regarding Keystone XL pipeline
                            https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jen...mment-backlash


                            oopsie.
                            wow
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Stoic View Post

                              Of course not. Prices always go up during an economic recovery. But we were talking about gas shortages.
                              When did they "always go up" during the three years of economic recovery we experienced before the pandemic?

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                When did they "always go up" during the three years of economic recovery we experienced before the pandemic?
                                There wasn't anything to recover from during the three years before the pandemic, though gas prices did go up during the first couple of those years.

                                https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...te_nus_dpg&f=m

                                If you want to give TFG the credit for the fall in gas prices last year, then you have to give him credit for the economic damage caused by the pandemic. Because, you know, cause and effect.

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