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Why not create a word for matrimony blessed by GOD (Christian Marriage)
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostSo, "you must be born again" doesn't qualify? "Repent and be baptized" doesn't count?
More common to me is the idea that all your sins have been forgiven, but that the continued act of repentance is part of the sanctification and acknowledging your faults. I don't think that gets you to excluding homosexuals either.I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThe problem is that some homosexuals think that they are Christians, despite their un-repented sin, so they will claim the name for theirs because they mistakenly think God sanctions their sin.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostLet's consider someone who genuinely repents. He sins, as is bound to be the case. Has he lost his 'Christian' at this point? Does he only regain it if he repents?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostNot the way you would like. It's either comprehensive or retroactive.
If it's comprehensive, all sins are considered as repented.
If it's retroactive, then it's only those things that happened before the act of repentance.
Even if you require regular acts of repentance, no human is fully aware of all their sins. Are you still held accountable for things you didn't know (or think) were wrong, to the point of exclusion? That gets you into things like last rites.
More common to me is the idea that all your sins have been forgiven, but that the continued act of repentance is part of the sanctification and acknowledging your faults. I don't think that gets you to excluding homosexuals either.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThe problem is that some homosexuals think that they are Christians, despite their un-repented sin, so they will claim the name for theirs because they mistakenly think God sanctions their sin.
** Hope I am making sense**
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostNope. That's not how salvation works. Nor does it work for the sinner who thumbs his nose at God and basically tells Him "you don't like it? Tough!" and then expects God to grant salvation without any effort at repentance.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostLet's consider someone who genuinely repents.
He sins, as is bound to be the case.
Or "sins" as in committing the same act (or attitude) repeatedly, with no sign of contrition?
Has he lost his 'Christian' at this point? Does he only regain it if he repents?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThis indicates that he has "turned around".
"sins" as in a temporary setback through an action?
Or "sins" as in committing the same act (or attitude) repeatedly, with no sign of contrition?
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostThe former as well as the case where sin is unrecognised because of ignorance.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Outis View PostOr honest disagreement.
Even on very important issues, Christians are not monolithic in their beliefs.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNor has anybody claimed that.
Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThe problem is that some homosexuals think that they are Christians, despite their un-repented sin, so they will claim the name for theirs because they mistakenly think God sanctions their sin.
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