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Should Convicted Felons get Voting Rights Back?
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"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSounds like he's saying "not enough people vote, so let's give the vote to felons, cause then it will be a REAL democracy!
(yeah, I'm being somewhat facetious, but I think that's a dumb justification for restoring voting rights to felons)
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Originally posted by seasanctuary View PostAgreed. I would like to see everyone interested in voting being able to vote and everyone uninterested staying out of it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostEven to the point of "get out the vote" type drives? To me, they tend to "push" people to vote who really have either no interest, or not enough information."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI've always had misgivings about these for the reasons you mentioned. Those people who are well informed about what's going on already probably know when it's time to vote.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostEven to the point of "get out the vote" type drives? To me, they tend to "push" people to vote who really have either no interest, or not enough information.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostEven to the point of "get out the vote" type drives? To me, they tend to "push" people to vote who really have either no interest, or not enough information.
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Originally posted by seasanctuary View PostAren't those about raising interest? They still have to choose to go vote instead of whatever else. I'm ok with that. What I don't want is the equivalent of tracking everyone down, giving them a ballot, and saying, "Here, put a mark in one of these squares so that we have a fully functional democracy of everyone voting.""I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by seasanctuary View PostAren't those about raising interest?
They still have to choose to go vote instead of whatever else. I'm ok with that.
What I don't want is the equivalent of tracking everyone down, giving them a ballot, and saying, "Here, put a mark in one of these squares so that we have a fully functional democracy of everyone voting."The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Interesting article from today. Apparently Rand Paul has made it a big issue of his own.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/19/politi...3A+Politics%29"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, yeah, then there's this... I thought this was a really DUMB "summary"....
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So here's the thing: Felons who are out of prison have largely served the punishment prescribed by the judicial system. Shouldn't that be enough? Penalizing them further by taking away their right to vote is not just unfair to them, it's bad for us. We'll be lucky if 40% of eligible voters cast a ballot on Nov. 7. What kind of a democracy is that?
Read more: Why Can't Felons Vote? - TIME http://content.time.com/time/nation/...#ixzz2tDYr3kXK
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People are free NOT to vote - we don't force them. Sounds like he's saying "not enough people vote, so let's give the vote to felons, cause then it will be a REAL democracy!
(yeah, I'm being somewhat facetious, but I think that's a dumb justification for restoring voting rights to felons)
(I sure do miss the cite tags!)
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Comparing to quoted post to see if those cite tags start working.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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