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Gay Scout Masters - Scouts No Longer Have to Be Morally Straight
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Last edited by Starlight; 07-27-2015, 06:24 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIt is, however, true that all the children molested by Catholic priests were molested by Christians."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd what do you have Jaecp? An ossified moral sense that countenance the killing of unborn babies and harvesting their body parts. You are in no position good sir to speak on moral issues with any authority or insight.
Meh
You have no response to my questions so, instead you go "well.... You believe in abortion!" As though that had anything to do with the paucity of your own arguments
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I was in the Boy Scouts for a long time and there is one misconception I'd like to deal with; they don't allow adults to shower with kids. (If they did I sure as heck wouldn't let any of my kids anywhere near the scouts.) At least at the well staffed camps, I think the bigger threat here is actually older Scouts showering with younger Scouts (there was a scout-on-scout sexual assault at the scout camp I went to). Of course, on smaller campouts involving just the one troop, it's possible the rules could get broken, but that could happen anywhere."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
You have no response to my questions so, instead you go "well.... You believe in abortion!" As though that had anything to do with the paucity of your own argumentsAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo it has everything to do with a man who has lost all his moral sense. How I could argue with someone who is ethically irrational? I might as well argue about the color red with a man who was blind from birth.
You don't have an answer. You choose to evade. That is your choice, but play not these little games.
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostIrrelevant! I could be Satan Hitler Dahmer and it wouldn't improve your rhetoric in the slightest
You don't have an answer. You choose to evade. That is your choice, but play not these little games.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostI'm not playing games - the fact that you don't see homosexual behavior as the evil that it is just confirms that you are morally delinquent. What else do I have to add?
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostAnyone else, more compassionate than I, want to give me a hand explaining why simply asserting ones moral framework to be correct isn't an argument?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Acceptance of homosexuality does not indicate general immorality. If you want people to accept conservative opinions on this issue as a permissible disagreement, you might want to start by taking the same approach to others. If you think this difference is so serious that those who disagree with you are completely immoral, you should not be surprised if the mainstream think the same about you, and act accordingly. It's called doing to others what you want them to do to you.Last edited by hedrick; 07-27-2015, 08:30 PM.
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Originally posted by seer View Postthe fact that you don't see homosexual behavior as the evil that it is"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI was in the Boy Scouts for a long time and there is one misconception I'd like to deal with; they don't allow adults to shower with kids. (If they did I sure as heck wouldn't let any of my kids anywhere near the scouts.) At least at the well staffed camps, I think the bigger threat here is actually older Scouts showering with younger Scouts (there was a scout-on-scout sexual assault at the scout camp I went to). Of course, on smaller campouts involving just the one troop, it's possible the rules could get broken, but that could happen anywhere.
I mean, I was technically just in Cub Scouts when I was a kid, but from what I remember, the scout leaders just led us in playing games, taught us how to tie a few stupid knots, helped us build a campfire, and gave us a bunch of popcorn to go sell. That was as close as they got. My troop also required everyone to watch a video explaining how to recognize and respond to sexual abuse.
So yeah, the argument against the rule change basically boils down to declaring that gay people are somehow incapable of being good people, or presuming that gay people are likelier to molest young boys...even though evidence indicates that the vast majority of pedophiles self-identify as predominantly or even exclusively heterosexual.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostHow do you know they were Christians?
Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostAnyway, most of them
Originally posted by Darth Executor View Postwere gays molesting teens (IE: not pedos, just run of the mill gay rapists)
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Originally posted by whag View Post"Most of them"? Where'd ya get that figure?
The study listed the main characteristics of the sex abuse incidents reported. These included:
-- An overwhelming majority of the victims, 81 percent, were males. The most vulnerable were boys aged 11 to 14, representing more than 40 percent of the victims. This goes against the trend in the general U.S. society where the main problem is men abusing girls.
-- A majority of the victims were post-pubescent adolescents with a small percentage of the priests accused of abusing children who had not reached puberty.
-- Most of the accused committed a variety of sex acts involving serious sexual offenses.
-- The most frequent context for abuse was a social event and many priests socialized with the families of victims.
-- Abuses occurred in a variety of places with the most common being the residence of the priest.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by hedrick View PostAcceptance of homosexuality does not indicate general immorality. If you want people to accept conservative opinions on this issue as a permissible disagreement, you might want to start by taking the same approach to others. If you think this difference is so serious that those who disagree with you are completely immoral, you should not be surprised if the mainstream think the same about you, and act accordingly. It's called doing to others what you want them to do to you.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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