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  • seer
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    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    Actually seer, that is the point. This woman is clearly expecting to get some sort of payment out of that. Joking about a Lamborghini, that's kind of irrelevant, the fact that she said it meant she was doing something under the table to get herself some extra money.
    Well I guess, but I didn't know this kind of thing was going on, and that it is generally legal. Sure the woman was greedy, but this whole enterprise is just horrible - heartbreaking.

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  • Leonhard
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    Originally posted by seer View Post
    The point is not the car or even the "shipping costs," but the callousness with which these women speak of killing babies and harvesting their body parts. And that over all fact was not debunked.
    Actually seer, that is the point. This woman is clearly expecting to get some sort of payment out of that. Joking about a Lamborghini, that's kind of irrelevant, the fact that she said it meant she was doing something under the table to get herself some extra money.

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  • seer
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    Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
    I was referring to the first video being debunked, but yes, immediately after mentioning the car she goes "no no" or something, it's clearly a joke, so clear is the joke that not even The Blaze is trying to pretpretend it was serious and that's Glenn Becks site.

    We don't even have the uncut video this time and some conservative news outlets are hedging their coverage.
    The point is not the car or even the "shipping costs," but the callousness with which these women speak of killing babies and harvesting their body parts. And that over all fact was not debunked.

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  • Leonhard
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    Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
    immediately after mentioning the car she goes "no no" or something, it's clearly a joke, so clear is the joke
    She clearly expects this money, or some of it to go to her. Otherwise that's one heck of a PR disaster to fire off. One can joke about getting money. I doubt she expected this to net her enough to get a full 500000$, but she clearly expected some substantial amount of it to go to her. She was browsing for prices, said she'd have to check what others got... you don't negotiate compensation like that. The pay is supposed to by only for storage, transportation, and any other costs associated with getting the material from point A to point B. Not income.

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  • Darth Executor
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    Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
    I was referring to the first video being debunked, but yes, immediately after mentioning the car she goes "no no" or something, it's clearly a joke, so clear is the joke that not even The Blaze is trying to pretpretend it was serious and that's Glenn Becks site.

    We don't even have the uncut video this time and some conservative news outlets are hedging their coverage.
    Yes, it's obvious she's joking about the Lamborghini and she doesn't actually expect one. That you think the problem here is that people think she was serious about the Lamborghini just shows that you're a psychopath with zero understanding of how normal people's brains function.

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  • Leonhard
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    Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
    We don't even have the uncut video this time and some conservative news outlets are hedging their coverage.
    Yes we do. I posted it in the OP. Here it is again.

    Last edited by Leonhard; 07-21-2015, 04:34 PM.

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  • Darth Executor
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    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    Seriously Jaecp, sit down and watch all eight minutes. From now on if you want to argue that something is said, or isn't said, either make a reference to the video in its short version, or its full version.

    Like it or not, she said exactly what she said.
    The Jaecps of the world tried to cover up Gosnell's murders of one woman and several kids born alive, what makes you think he has any interest here other than to defend Holy Abortion no matter the cost?

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  • Jaecp
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    Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
    Debunked . . . how? My first guess: Gatter was just kidding around with her meal mates.
    I was referring to the first video being debunked, but yes, immediately after mentioning the car she goes "no no" or something, it's clearly a joke, so clear is the joke that not even The Blaze is trying to pretpretend it was serious and that's Glenn Becks site.

    We don't even have the uncut video this time and some conservative news outlets are hedging their coverage.

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  • Leonhard
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    Seriously Jaecp, sit down and watch all eight minutes. From now on if you want to argue that something is said, or isn't said, either make a reference to the video in its short version, or its full version.

    Like it or not, she said exactly what she said.

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  • seer
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    Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
    Leon, you should know better than this. I expect seer and the other people to sensationalized this, but why are you posting this not a week after the immediately debunked video by the same group?
    It was not debunked.

    If there was any actual evidence of wrongdoing then these would have been criminal investigations ages ago. What we actually have is heavily edited nonsense.
    Legal and moral are two different things.

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  • Leonhard
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    Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
    Leon ... why are you posting this not a week after the immediately debunked video by the same group?
    Planned Parenthood did not debunk that video, they admitted first and foremost that one of their persons spoke out of line. They then admitted that fetal tissue was sent to other companies, but that the pay wasn't any source of income... which I took to be true. Its immoral, but within the law.

    They made some wrong arguments. That the video was heavily edited, when the full video that was released didn't change any of the conclusions.

    This video is not heavily edited, and the quotes I've shown are objectively part of what she said. There was plenty of other things said equally reprehensible. The fact that she'd be willing to change the abortion technique under the table, against the awareness of the patient to result in a more intact extractions.

    And I don't know entirely if she joked at the end. Obviously she doesn't expect them to pay her a Lamborghini, but its obvious that she expects that these payments are going to her. So the argument that these 'reasonable compensations' are just that... payments for transport, storage etc... and not part of some very corrupt business at Planned Parenthood is misguided.

    I mean, why else would she say that she'd have to check around to see what anyone else are getting? I'm not sure how you could deny that this woman expects this money to end up in her bank account.

    There is enough reason here to launch an inspection of their business.

    If there was any actual evidence of wrongdoing then these would have been criminal investigations ages ago.
    Why? There's plenty of corrupt business persons out there taking advantage of their job positions. This looks like a case of this.

    What we actually have is heavily edited nonsense.
    What's 'heavily edited' about it? I have a feeling you didn't even watch the video. Make some actual claims about the video that are based on objective evidence, and not hear say.

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  • Truthseeker
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    Debunked . . . how? My first guess: Gatter was just kidding around with her meal mates.

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  • Darth Executor
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    Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
    Leon, you should know better than this. I expect seer and the other people to sensationalized this, but why are you posting this not a week after the immediately debunked video by the same group?
    lol liberals are still pretending the video was "debunked"

    If there was any actual evidence of wrongdoing then these would have been criminal investigations ages ago.
    Like we've forgotten how pro-choicers suppressed Gosnell investigations and suppress even news of pro-choice misdeeds on a regular basis.

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  • Jaecp
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    Leon, you should know better than this. I expect seer and the other people to sensationalized this, but why are you posting this not a week after the immediately debunked video by the same group?

    If there was any actual evidence of wrongdoing then these would have been criminal investigations ages ago. What we actually have is heavily edited nonsense.


    Edit: even the blaze. The blaze!! Is referring to the comment in the OP as an obvious joke http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...-group-claims/
    Last edited by Jaecp; 07-21-2015, 03:32 PM.

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