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New Undercover Video of Planned Parenthood
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So, are we still pretending this is about shipping and handling? Or is there some new spin that has come out recently?
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostVery droll!
It is absurd to regard a newly fertilized egg as a fully human person, although it is reasonable to regard it as a "potential human life". Hence the only question is when the fetus acquires 'person-hood'. Jewish Law has traditionally said it was at birth.
Have you ever studied biology?
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The liberal media is more upset about the killing of a lion than they are about Planned Parenthood selling the body parts of murdered babies.
The most disgusting display, I think, was Jimmy Kimmel becoming teary-eyed over the lion and asking, "I'm honestly curious to know why a human being would feel compelled to do that?" but he apparently hasn't felt compelled to shed a single tear for the innocent human life that is callously slaughtered by the butchers at Planned Parenthood.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI see conservatives regularly getting upset about things I think should obviously be in that baseline of knowledge. That's when I lose my patience with them. Their objections span the range of "the children are too young" to "that's too explicit" to "I never got taught that when I was a kid, so why do they need to be taught it?" to "if they know about it, they'll want to do it" to "you might teach the topics of sex in a way that is not sufficiently condemning of sex outside marriage", and most recently "if you teach about what the word 'gay' means then my child might think it's cool and want to be gay". There's really not a lot that some parents somewhere don't manage to find objectionable for some reason or other when it comes to sex ed.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostIt's only a non-scandal if you're morally bankrupt.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostThat was exactly my point.
If "baby" has many meanings, not all of which are relevant, why do you insist on using it when there are narrower terms available?
Roy
Is the term 'baby' used by medical professionals, before birth?
Does the dictionary refer to the term 'baby' before birth?
Do mothers and fathers say they are having a baby or that they have a fetus?
Do grandparents refer to their unborn grandchild as a baby or a fetus?
Do we throw a baby shower or a fetus shower?
Again, the only people, I have ever known, that says variations on the phrase, "Baby, don't you mean a fetus?" are pro abortions, when they want to argue for abortion. Perhaps you should stop arguing like an abortionist if you don't want to be assumed to be one? Just a thought...Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 07-29-2015, 08:56 PM.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostDo you always assume everyone who criticises you is an abortionist?
Roy
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostYou are not pro-life and should stop using a political label that is explicitly made to describe people who are not like you. The pro-choice label fits your position like a glove since the terms deal with the legality of abortion. IOW, you think women should have the legal right to CHOOSE whether to keep the baby or not, hence pro-CHOICE.
The Act made abortion legal in the UK (with the exception of Northern Ireland) up to 28 weeks' gestation. In 1990, the law was amended by the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act so that abortion was no longer legal after 24 weeks except in cases where it was necessary to save the life of the woman, there was evidence of extreme fetal abnormality, or there was a grave risk of physical or mental injury to the woman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_Act_1967
Sound any different than what Sam is advocating?
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I prefer, that the government, if it is so inclined, will provide a good education. However, what is to be standardized, is not so much the education, but the tests at the end. What matters ultimately, is whether you can perform and have an understanding of these subjects.
The government has no business becoming the caretaker of the individual.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThere's an extremely easy way to prevent pregnancy. Not have sex. I'd think that's sort of obvious.
One of the girls I've encountered who got pregnant without understanding the process had had some abstinence-only sex-ed from her mother. (I'm assuming the schooling system in her home country had either had no sex ed, or that she'd been opted-out of it.) It had apparently literally consisted of her mother saying "You know the thing? Don't do the thing!" in an angry voice while waving her finger. The girl hadn't known what 'the thing' was, and only after getting pregnant had she learned her mother had been referring to sex. This is why it's important not to leave it up to families... because some parents make atrocious teachers. So it's important that the school provides a baseline of knowledge for everyone. Parents can then supplement that knowledge in whatever ways they see fit.Last edited by Starlight; 07-29-2015, 03:46 PM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAs William Bennet used to say, "that's worked every time it's been tried, except once, and that turned out OK".
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