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Now’s the Time To End Tax Exemptions for Religious Institutions - Mark Openheimer
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostWell, at least one person on the other side started saying it in the open.
Originally posted by seer View PostAnd the "the power to tax involves the power to destroy.""I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNo, it's "with great power comes great responsibility".Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Meh... I know a few pastors who would be more than happy to tell the Government where they can shove their tax exemption should it come down to that. In all honesty- should things REALLY get that bad- I'd prefer that churches lose their tax-exempt status than constantly risk being blackmailed by the state to violate their conscience. Churches don't need the tax exemption, though it certainly makes them more efficient in their ministry.Last edited by Chaotic Void; 07-15-2015, 05:45 PM.Have You Touched Grass Today? If Not, Please Do.
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Originally posted by Chaotic Void View PostMeh... I know a few pastors who would be more than happy to tell the Government where they can shove their tax exemption should it come down to that. In all honesty- should things REALLY get that bad- I'd prefer that churches lose their tax-exempt status than constantly risk being blackmailed by the state to violate their conscience. Churches don't need the tax exemption, though it certainly makes them more efficient in their ministry.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostBut then they become a for-profit business and thus will likely lose first amendment protection.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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The biggest tax advantage for Churches, in my opinion, is the ministerial housing allowance, which is also under attack. I expect it will eventually go away, but meanwhile it helps smaller Churches pay their ministers a "bigger bang for the buck" salary.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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If we substituted the Fair Tax for the Income Tax the problem would go away. No tax exemptions along with all the fiscal benefits of doing away with the whole tax structure. Of course we will never the the Fair Tax because that would take away masses of government control of peoples private lives. Control of people is what liberals are all about. This in the tax system, gun control and lots of other areas.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostIf we substituted the Fair Tax for the Income Tax the problem would go away. No tax exemptions"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Spartacus View Postthat would require overruling Citizens United, etc., which I know the Left wants to do anyway, but...
Why even have this tax exemption in the first place?
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Also, the link doesn't work in the OP
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Although I do have some issues with the ministerial housing allowance, I honestly don't have any problem with the tax exemptions offered by 501(c)(3) registration.
Interestingly, if these exemptions were to disappear, so would the rules which disallow 501(c)(3) organizations from directly taking part in politics. Pastors would be completely free to endorse specific candidates or legislation from the pulpit or to require that their congregations vote a certain way in order to retain membership. I honestly don't think that many of those people who are calling for the end of "religious tax exemption" have realized that they may actually be opening up something which they oppose even more strongly."[Mathematics] is the revealer of every genuine truth, for it knows every hidden secret, and bears the key to every subtlety of letters; whoever, then, has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom."
--Thomas Bradwardine, De Continuo (c. 1325)
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostAlthough I do have some issues with the ministerial housing allowance, I honestly don't have any problem with the tax exemptions offered by 501(c)(3) registration.
Interestingly, if these exemptions were to disappear, so would the rules which disallow 501(c)(3) organizations from directly taking part in politics. Pastors would be completely free to endorse specific candidates or legislation from the pulpit or to require that their congregations vote a certain way in order to retain membership. I honestly don't think that many of those people who are calling for the end of "religious tax exemption" have realized that they may actually be opening up something which they oppose even more strongly.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostWhy even have this tax exemption in the first place?
I like to joke that it's the Goober Mint's way of conceding inefficiency, since it's not exactly the world's best-kept secret that private charities typically provide more bang for your buck.Have You Touched Grass Today? If Not, Please Do.
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