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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostOh please, I don't for a minute believe that black men interact with their kids more that Whites or Hispanics. Or perhaps they have higher unemployment rates so are just home more.
Citing white supremacy sites, claiming that a contradictory wiki article actually says the same thing as said supremacy site, ignoring the discrimination against the black population in the criminal systems, offensively dismissing a statistic because it doesn't fit a held stereotype ... on a roll, here, seer."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View PostCiting white supremacy sites, claiming that a contradictory wiki article actually says the same thing as said supremacy site, ignoring the discrimination against the black population in the criminal systems, offensively dismissing a statistic because it doesn't fit a held stereotype ... on a roll, here, seer.
The vast majority of these murders are black on black. You just don't see this in largely white population. And you talk about discrimination but the most violent cities have been under "progressive" rule for the past 30-50 years. Often in very liberal states.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sam View PostThis would fit perfectly with the hash tag #stuffoldwhiteracistssay.
Citing white supremacy sites, claiming that a contradictory wiki article actually says the same thing as said supremacy site, ignoring the discrimination against the black population in the criminal systems, offensively dismissing a statistic because it doesn't fit a held stereotype ... on a roll, here, seer.
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Originally posted by seer View PostOh please, I don't for a minute believe that black men interact with their kids more that Whites or Hispanics. Or perhaps they have higher unemployment rates so are just home more.Last edited by KingsGambit; 07-13-2015, 04:10 PM."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostWhat specifically is wrong with this study? Any issues with the methodology?
Because I read things like this:
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...-People/page11
Over 24 million children in the U.S. live without their biological fathers. These children are, on average, two to three times more likely to experience education, behavioral, health, and emotional problems; use drugs; be poor; engage in criminal activity; or be victims of child abuse than their peers residing with two (married) parents.
Fifty percent of these fatherless children have never even been in their father’s home.
With nearly two in three black children growing up without their biological fathers and the exaggerated association between black males and criminality, black men have become the ultimate symbol of personal failure—their abandoned children, the ultimate statistics. The issue of black fatherhood has become paramount to the larger conversation on parenting and socio-economic outcomes for children. If you’re not talking about black men, you’re not talking about absentee fathers.
Even President Obama has opined on this national conversation, creating the Fatherhood and Mentoring Initiative and making responsible fatherhood one of the key priorities of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. While his speeches on fatherhood have been widely criticized in liberal circles for their conservative and retrograde content, the president’s rhetoric remains quite indicative of public opinion on the state of [black] fatherhood.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Kristian Joensen View PostIt comes to a conclusion that Seer doesn't like.
Yes, There's a Black Fatherhood Crisis
By Robert VerBruggen
ThinkProgress has a post -- "The Myth of the Absent Black Father" -- claiming that the crisis is a "racially-biased" fiction. This Los Angeles Times chart is provided as evidence:
The problem, of course, is the "in similar living situations." When people speak of "father absence," they are mainly referring to the absence of fathers from the home -- that is, father absence is a "living situation." The assertion here is that, once you disaggregate by father absence, there's no racial gap in father absence.
The piece concedes that "black fathers are more likely to live separately from their children" but claims that "many of them remain just as involved in their kids' lives." "Many" is a versatile word, but nonetheless the supporting evidence is rather weak: For example, 67 percent of black fathers who don't live with their kids, and 59 percent of white fathers in the same situation, see their kids at least once a month. Much stronger evidence on the importance of living with one's kids can be found in the chart above: There is no comparison between resident dads and nonresident dads -- of any race -- on even one of the metrics.
http://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog/...risis_805.htmlAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostSo who's not to say that the anecdotes there are wrong and the study is right? It seems like you're just cherrypicking what you do like and dismissing what you don't.
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or instance, among fathers who lived with young children, 70% of black dads said they bathed, diapered or dressed those kids every day, compared with 60% of white fathers and 45% of Latino fathers, according to a report released Friday by the National Center for Health Statistics.
The report leaves it unclear if black fathers, on the whole, are more involved than other dads. Although the survey showed that black fathers not living at home are as involved with their children as fathers of other races in similar situations, the higher percentage of black dads absent from the home could drag down the average involvement for all black fathers, other researchers pointed out.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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There are more black fathers living with their children than without, and of the latter group, a higher percentage still interacts with them instead of abandoning them. None of this seems to bode with hyperbolic claims about the destruction of the black family, or that "there is something seriously wrong with that culture."Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by fm93 View PostThere are more black fathers living with their children than without, and of the latter group, a higher percentage still interacts with them instead of abandoning them. None of this seems to bode with hyperbolic claims about the destruction of the black family, or that "there is something seriously wrong with that culture."
CHICAGO — Obama Sharply Assails Absent Black Fathers
Addressing a packed congregation at one of the city’s largest black churches, Senator Barack Obama on Sunday invoked his own absent father to deliver a sharp message to African-American men, saying, “We need fathers to realize that responsibility does not end at conception.”
“Too many fathers are M.I.A, too many fathers are AWOL, missing from too many lives and too many homes,” Mr. Obama said, to a chorus of approving murmurs from the audience. “They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it.”
BTW - where in the study did it say that there are more black men living with there children than not - I did not see that.Last edited by seer; 07-14-2015, 07:24 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostWhat is nonsense about it? Being born into the west, into the ethnicity and gender at am puts me at a highly advantaged position compared to others. I've been aware of this since I was a little kid."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Sam View PostThe black population, when one controls for poverty, is no more probe to criminality than the general population.
Nevermind that "controlling for poverty" is begging the question. Correlation does not equal causation."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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