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  • #46
    Originally posted by JimL View Post
    Really, tell that to your parents, grandparents and all those whose lives, most likely including your own, were made all the better by the social policies intituted by the Democratic party. It is always an amazing thing to me that people are so naive as to be led to vote against their own best interests, as well as the best interests of the country as a whole, by, and in favor of, the top 10%. Propaganda works, and money is its backbone.
    Nonsense, things like Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid are unsustainable. And it is not about the top 10%, the real money is in the middle class, and we are being killed by confiscatory tax rates. Just look at my little state of Connecticut we are going bankrupt because of liberal give a ways.
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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    • #47
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      Nonsense, things like Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid are unsustainable. And it is not about the top 10%, the real money is in the middle class, and we are being killed by confiscatory tax rates. Just look at my little state of Connecticut we are going bankrupt because of liberal give a ways.
      The real money is not in the middle class, it is in the hands of the top 10% which if you bothered to look at the gragh starlight linked to you would know that. People are working harder, recieving less for their work, and all the profits are are going to the top. The state is run by big business and is being forced into more assistance for those in need as a direct result of the unjust business practices. The only reason that the safety net is unsustainable is because of these unjust and greedy business practices, not to mention the loopholes in the tax system that allows them to avoid paying their fair share. You don't like Socialism, which is the wide spread ownership of business by the government, and neither is that what democratic socialism is, but apparently you like the wide spread ownership of government by big business.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by whag View Post
        When will you stop being a tool and recognize Trump is pandering to you?
        Wait!!! You mean somebody running for president is PANDERING to potential VOTERS?!?!?!? I am shocked - SHOCKED, I say!
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Wait!!! You mean somebody running for president is PANDERING to potential VOTERS?!?!?!? I am shocked - SHOCKED, I say!
          You forgot the mandatory addition of the following clip:


          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #50
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            You forgot the mandatory addition of the following clip:


            I didn't want to cheat you out of one of your favorite posting opportunities!
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              Trump is not a serious candidate. He's just hogging the spotlight.
              I agree with this. Even though he's leading the polls right now, I don't know if anybody who isn't completely new to politics thinks that'll last.
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • #52
                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                I agree with this. Even though he's leading the polls right now, I don't know if anybody who isn't completely new to politics thinks that'll last.
                That it'll last isn't really an issue

                That its happening at all is a problem.

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                • #53
                  Agreeing with Jaecp, it's not like those voters vigorously nodding their heads and clapping when Trump lets loose some racist/nativist nonsense will just disappear when Trump finally flames out.
                  "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                  • #54
                    Aww, Sam, if you keep sweet talking me like that I might have to start inviting you to all the secret atheist barbecues. Now with 100% more debutchery

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
                      Aww, Sam, if you keep sweet talking me like that I might have to start inviting you to all the secret atheist barbecues. Now with 100% more debutchery
                      Debutchery at a barbeque? I'm intrigued yet suspicious.
                      "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                      • #56
                        Suspicious of what, Sam?

                        When have I ever given you cause for alarm?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
                          Suspicious of what, Sam?

                          When have I ever given you cause for alarm?
                          Do you want that list in alphabetical, chronological or categorical order?

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by seer View Post
                            Nonsense, things like Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid are unsustainable. And it is not about the top 10%, the real money is in the middle class, and we are being killed by confiscatory tax rates. Just look at my little state of Connecticut we are going bankrupt because of liberal give a ways.
                            Our taxes are getting higher because we keep allowing businesses to hold us hostage to keep the jobs in the US. When NAFTA went through, our area lost a major Auto Glass manufacturer, A major Coffee manufacturer, a major raw dough products manufacturer (think doughboy), and another major manufacturer of medical supplies (bandages, gauze etc). They were replaced with NOT major manufacturers (if the were replaced at all, at least one of these is empty still and the others are less than half full. They were lured here by Tax abatements. Several came and operated until the abatements ended then went somewhere else. Coporate welfare to save our jobs instead of higher tariffs to make them keep them here...You pay more taxes because of it.
                            "What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer

                            "... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
                              Aww, Sam, if you keep sweet talking me like that I might have to start inviting you to all the secret atheist barbecues. Now with 100% more debutchery
                              Since when have you and Sam disagreed on anything here? (I think you were aiming for "debauchery.")

                              On topic, many, many people all over the spectrum vote for stupid reasons - and polls are even sketchier, because there's no personal downside to giving a false response for the fun of it.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                                Since when have you and Sam disagreed on anything here? (I think you were aiming for "debauchery.")

                                On topic, many, many people all over the spectrum vote for stupid reasons - and polls are even sketchier, because there's no personal downside to giving a false response for the fun of it.
                                Are you seriously trying to correct my spelling?

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