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Originally posted by JimL View PostThank you. And if Republican run states would stop screwing their own people and trying to gum up the works, the savings would no doubt be even greater.
"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Jude View PostI think that many are tired of hearing about one party or the other and are concerned more with charting a new course that reestablishes America as a strong and secure country. Call them whatever you want. It's 17 months until election. I wouldn't put too much stock in current polls. A lot can and will happen between now and then.
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Originally posted by Jude View PostI'm not content with our current southern border situation and economy/employment rate. I'm not satisfied with our strategy vs. Isis. Would it be your opinion that the USA's reputation in the world has risen or declined in this century? Home and abroad I sense that we are flying by the seat of our pants and I want to hear concrete plans for a way forward. Speaking for myself only, I do not trust some of our current leaders. Our political differences aside, it is honesty, integrity, and fair dealing with the American people that I question. Their speech seems dodgy to me. Maybe I am wrong but I think that is Trump's main attraction to voters. He does not mince words.
The unemployment rate just hit the lowest it's been since the 2008 financial crash, and it's below the historical average. If you look at the unemployment data for the past 20 years or so you'll see that the unemployment rate generally hovers between 4-6%, so whats the problem? There are plenty of problems, but the unemployment rate at 5.3% is not something you can just rattle off.
You're not satisfied with our strategy vs Isis? Thats... nice? Got anything concrete?
Our reputation in the world has risen post-bush, absolutely. We are not flying by the seat of our pants. Thats... that's not a thing with something this big. Concrete plans to move forward are being proposed, #Berie2016
Trust, as used by most people to refer to political leaders, I don't understand. The crisis's of this administration have been minor, blown out of proportion, and been largely a matter of partisanship political maneuvering at the expense of the average citizen leading up to absolute nonsense like the government shutdown and taken routine bills to use as hostages because Republicans are having more and more problem winning federal level office, let alone the Presidency.
Trump is a non-factor, the dude is imploding and is absolutely unqualified to be the president.
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostThe Southern Border is fineThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostThe Southern Border is fine,.
IMAG0002.JPG IMAG0007.JPG IMAG0013.JPG IMAG0015.JPGLast edited by Bill the Cat; 07-03-2015, 08:35 AM.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostTrump is a non-factor...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHealthcare, just like everything else, is always more expensive than before. But the fact of the matter is that the rate of increase in healthcare cost is slower than in decades.
That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Sam View PostHe's not even right on the plain merits. The employee portion of covering a family of four with employer-based coverage in 2014 was $9695, according to Kaiser. In 2015, a family of four earning $60,000/year seeking coverage on the non-group exchanges would have to pay ~$9625 for a silver-level plan. With subsidies, however, that amount falls to $4888. So people seeking coverage on the exchanges are often paying substantially less than they would have paid before the ACA, assuming they weren't gambling on "catastrophic coverage".
But True-blooded Conservatives will never accept the ACA's substantial success. They'll end up using it, sure enough, and even end up relying on its existence. But accept it? Nope.
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Source: http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/12/news...amacare-costs/That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostNo it is not. I helped build the wall south of San Diego and the border patrol agents that I worked with were quite adamant that they were fighting a war they were woefully unequipped to fight. Here are some pics of the wall, of me, and of one way the illegals were beating the wall using rebar they stole from the construction sites.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostAll I need to say is in this graph:
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Source: http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/12/news...amacare-costs/
So ... let's put these two posts together:
Annual premiums on the individual market for a family of four earning $60k/year are ~$4888, whereas the employee contribution would be ~$9695. Assuming the family maxes out its deductible every year:
Individual Market: $4888 (premium) + $3453 (deducible) = $8341/year
Employer Market: $9695 (premium) + $1217 (deductible) = $10912/year
And participants in the individual market have choices regarding their deductible; higher premiums mean lower deductibles and vice versa.
Finally, every single healthcare reform "proposal" advanced by the GOP or Conservative wonks has involved high-deductible plans as its foundation."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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