The Moral Destruction Of The West

[Bill the Cat]

Secular Humanism! We're already seeing it happen throughout most of the developed world to its benefit...

The developed world is heading straight toward full on debauchery and immorality. With that comes all manner of decay. But the pigs are comfortable in their own slops, so they see nothing wrong with their filth.

[Cow Poke]

The developed world is heading straight toward full on debauchery and immorality. With that comes all manner of decay. But the pigs are comfortable in their own slops, so they see nothing wrong with their filth.

What's so weird is that America experienced God's Providence for a long time, and even the non-religious benefited, but they don't see that. But things are changing quickly, and they're celebrating their "victories".

[seer]

The developed world is heading straight toward full on debauchery and immorality. With that comes all manner of decay. But the pigs are comfortable in their own slops, so they see nothing wrong with their filth.

And Secular Humanism/progressives are responsible for the death of millions of unborn babies in the West. Death follows their philosophy, as does Hell...

[Mountain Man]

In other news, Greece just closed its banks. Hooray for secular humanism and liberal ideologies!

[Cow Poke]

So many of you people are so full of • Edited by a Moderator •with your constant whining for the good old days. Bunch of (mostly) angry old white dudes sitting on a virtual porch and spitting into the wind.

First of all, I ACCIDENTALLY amen'd this post. Secondly... sheeeesh... who's sounding angry here?

[rogue06]

First of all, I ACCIDENTALLY amen'd this post. Secondly... sheeeesh... who's sounding angry here?

You seem to do a lot of that.

I can tell by the times you amen some of my posts and I know you would never do that on porpoise.

[rogue06]

In other news, Greece just closed its banks. Hooray for secular humanism and liberal ideologies!

And we are on basically the same debt pattern

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[Cow Poke]

You seem to do a lot of that.

I can tell by the times you amen some of my posts and I know you would never do that on porpoise.

Wait... I amen'd YOU'RE posts!!?!?!?!?!?!



Spelled that way on purpose

[Tassman]

You are correct they are secular but they are not humanists - whatever that means.

So you know that they’re not humanists but you don’t know what it means?

"Secular humanism is a comprehensive, non-religious life stance incorporating: A naturalistic philosophy, A cosmic outlook rooted in science, A consequentialist ethical system".

https://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php/3260

When, if, people, like you finally get controlling power you will be no less cruel than any other totalitarian system that has gone before. That is human nature. You will fall right in line the the old Maoists and Stalinists. Political Correctness and speech codes are just the tip of this secular ice berg.

Nonsense! This is ideological totalitarianism which is far more akin to the rigid conformity demanded by religion than secular humanism. The most secular states are far more tolerant of diversity than the states where religion attempts to enforce its views e.g. the USA. Just witness the religious hysteria over same-sex marriage.

You will change your mind one day. Hopefully, sooner rather than later.

Or, better, you will change your mind and cease promoting credulous nonsense…especially to innocent children.

[Tassman]

What's so weird is that America experienced God's Providence for a long time, and even the non-religious benefited, but they don't see that.

Your joking, God's Providence! Really! Then how do you explain that among developed countries the USA has the greatest wealth inequity, the greatest gun and racially-based violence, the highest incarceration rate by far and the worst social safety nets in the developed world...including the fierce (although failed) attempt) to block universal health care which is taken for granted in other developed nations?

But things are changing quickly, and they're celebrating their "victories"

One can only hope so for the sake of the people.

The developed world is heading straight toward full on debauchery and immorality. With that comes all manner of decay. But the pigs are comfortable in their own slops, so they see nothing wrong with their filth.

The greatest decay of all in the developed world is in the only state where religion is still taken seriously, i.e. the USA. See above.

[Cow Poke]

Your joking,

You're confusing your and you're, and you do it repeatedly.

[seer]

Are you daft Tass? You think that because you invent a philosophy that men will follow it, or that you can change human nature? Never mind the fact that most of you "humanists" have supported the holocaust of abortion.

Nonsense! This is ideological totalitarianism which is far more akin to the rigid conformity demanded by religion than secular humanism. The most secular states are far more tolerant of diversity than the states where religion attempts to enforce its views e.g. the USA. Just witness the religious hysteria over same-sex marriage.

Now that is nonsense, how many threads I started showing the intolerance of the left? And, because they can only go so far at this point, they can not foist all their beliefs on the rest of us - yet. But in thought they are no different than the Stalinists or Maoists of the last century. You will not be happy until everyone conforms to your way of thinking and acting.

[Starlight]

Now that is nonsense, how many threads I started showing the intolerance of the left? And, because they can only go so far at this point, they can not foist all their beliefs on the rest of us - yet. But in thought they are no different than the Stalinists or Maoists of the last century. You will not be happy until everyone conforms to your way of thinking and acting.

This is absolute nonsense seer. It's not merely wrong, but in fact the opposite of the truth - it's the right who is consistently much more authoritarian and controlling and conformist. Your want to give your personal morality the force of law and force everyone else to conform to your beliefs, and thereby dictate to them what people can do with their bodies and whether they can marry. Whereas the left thinks people should have the freedom to choose how to live their lives, and that society should be set up in such a way that the amount of people forcing their views on others is minimized.

[seer]

This is absolute nonsense seer. It's not merely wrong, but in fact the opposite of the truth - it's the right who is consistently much more authoritarian and controlling and conformist. Your want to give your personal morality the force of law and force everyone else to conform to your beliefs, and thereby dictate to them what people can do with their bodies and whether they can marry. Whereas the left thinks people should have the freedom to choose how to live their lives, and that society should be set up in such a way that the amount of people forcing their views on others is minimized.

No, when you tell a baker or a photographer or a farmer that they have to participate in a homosexual wedding under threat of law that is totalitarian. Christians did not invent speech codes or Political correctness - you leftists did. And when in state after state the people voted to uphold traditional marriage you leftists got your liberal judges to over turn the will of the people. Again totalitarian.

[Starlight]

No, when you tell a baker or a photographer or a farmer that they have to participate in a homosexual wedding under threat of law that is totalitarian. Christians did not invent speech codes or Political correctness - you leftists did.

A baker having to bake one cake is not anything in the same order of magnitude of totalitarian as denying someone the fundamental right to marriage. That is totalitarian.

Encouraging people to think carefully before saying things that could hurt others, or people censoring them for it if they do say hurtful things (aka political correctness), is not 'totalitarian', it's just encouraging people to have basic human decency. (Especially if it's just people doing it through peer-pressure and not the state doing it!) The fact that you confuse those things is disturbing in itself.

And when in state after state the people voted to uphold traditional marriage you leftists got your liberal judges to over turn the will of the people. Again totalitarian.

I'm generally not a fan of judges overruling the will of the people... I'm generally about as anti judicial activism as it's possible to be. The one exception to that is civil rights for minorities. Democracy has sometimes been called a 'tyranny of the majority', and sometimes society gets a false stereotype of a minority group stuck in its head and wants to persecute Jews, black people, Christians, gays etc. That's the one time when democracy really can break down and need a court to apply the breaks. Almost every other time I'm 100% with you and think a court has no business ever overturning any democratically enacted law.

In the case of same sex marriage, polling now shows majority support across the board. So it was hardly 'against' the will of the people.