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Originally posted by Starlight View PostAh right. So if I properly understood that the true concept of "authorship", and realized that the person who authored something was always "Moses" regardless of who actually authored it, then I'd know the Torah was authored by "Moses". Makes perfect sense I guess.
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This is like watching a peewee football team get run over by a professional club. Rational Gaze cites credentialed scholars, and Dimbulb goes, "Dah-uh..." and pulls something out of the most convenient bodily orifice.
Dimbulb here is a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostI find it kind of ironic that you lambast RG for writing dumb and false stuff and then you actually use the retarded argument that the fact that Moses' death is recorded in Deuteronomy is actually good evidence against the theory of Mosaic authorship, as if people couldn't possibly have edited the text afterwards to incorporate the events of Moses death.Last edited by Starlight; 06-30-2015, 08:36 PM.
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Originally posted by Rational Gaze View PostYes, because all the available evidence that a Moses like individual was the principal author of the Torah.
You are also retrojecting modern concepts of authorship onto ancient culture... but then you would know better if you actually knew what you were talking about.
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Originally posted by Irate Canadian View PostI'm going to voice a unpopular opinion here. I feel gay marriage should be legalized, however, there must be a major concession to religious Churches and organizations allowing them not to be forced to perform ceremonies that are against their will.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou realize that your link advocates Mosaic authorship of the Torah?
Originally posted by Starlight View PostMoses' death is recorded in Deuteronomy.
Originally posted by Starlight View PostThe idea of Mosaic authorship has not been taken very seriously since the 19th century.
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post~sigh~ And you still write the dumb and false stuff that you do?
You realize that your link advocates Mosaic authorship of the Torah? Moses' death is recorded in Deuteronomy. The idea of Mosaic authorship has not been taken very seriously since the 19th century.
I find it kind of ironic that you lambast RG for writing dumb and false stuff and then you actually use the retarded argument that the fact that Moses' death is recorded in Deuteronomy is actually good evidence against the theory of Mosaic authorship, as if people couldn't possibly have edited the text afterwards to incorporate the events of Moses death.
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Originally posted by Rational Gaze View PostI'll settle for saying that I have a BA (Hons) and MA in History and have spent many years researching Biblical history.
You realize that your link advocates Mosaic authorship of the Torah? Moses' death is recorded in Deuteronomy. The idea of Mosaic authorship has not been taken very seriously since the 19th century.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI'll settle for saying your post is 100% wrong, that the basic JEPD paradigm rests on absolutely compelling evidence and is universally taken for granted among Old Testament scholars and has been for decades.
"Even the most ardent advocate of the documentary theory must admit that we have as yet no single scrap of external, objective evidence for either the existence or the history of J, E, or any other alleged source-document.." - K.A. Kitchen, Ancient Orient and Old Testament, London: Tyndale, (1966), p23.
Originally posted by Starlight View PostThe idea of archaeology being used to refute it doesn't make sense.
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Originally posted by Rational Gaze View PostIt was generally regarded that JEDP has not a single scrap of supporting evidence as far back as 1966 (almost 50 years ago.) Not only that, JEDP is a hypothesis based on several 19th century theoretical and foundational assumptions that have long since been refuted by discoveries in archaeology.
I'll settle for saying your post is 100% wrong, that the basic JEPD paradigm rests on absolutely compelling evidence and is universally taken for granted among Old Testament scholars and has been for decades. The idea of archaeology being used to refute it doesn't make sense.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, I frequently use Wiki just for a basic synopsis, and USUALLY it can point you in the right direction for actual research.
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View PostActual Research is what Starlight seems to be allergic to.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, I frequently use Wiki just for a basic synopsis, and USUALLY it can point you in the right direction for actual research.
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