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  • #16
    Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
    I'm with fm93 here.
    And me? You're with me too right? Right?
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      And me? You're with me too right? Right?
      Aside from the interracial couple bit (I'm nowhere near convinced that that analogy is a good one), yes. If you'd just called it analogous to refusing to serve someone on the basis of race, I'd have listed you along with fm.
      Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by fm93 View Post
        Right, so...since the 60-year old man does not currently appear to be engaged in a homosexual romantic relationship, by what reasoning could Ultrasound justify the decision to refuse something as simple as providing music at a birthday party?
        There was a time when progressives valued freedom - they would have claimed that the freedom of association (and disassociation) was sufficient.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
          Again, more details will follow, to be sure. I just cited their policy for informational purposes.
          So until/unless details that change these things arrive, shouldn't you retract your claim expressed in this post, since it currently is irrelevant to this incident?
          Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

          I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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          • #20
            Originally posted by seanD View Post
            This is nothing. Wait until gay marriage becomes legal (and it eventually will). That's when the shizzle's gonna hit the fan. These people will go out of their way to target Christian businesses and churches just to get them to violate the law.
            I suppose someone’s gotta be last - Christians – always at the tail end of history. Come along boys, catch up. Mind you, if it weren’t for you slowcoaches we wouldn’t know that we are going in the right direction. Would we? You are like the tail feathers of an arrow.

            Freedom of religious practice is one thing but religious bigotry (it is very easy to see how some Christians cherry pick the magic book) is not to be protected.
            “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
            “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
            “not all there” - you know who you are

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            • #21
              Originally posted by fm93 View Post
              Right, so...since the 60-year old man does not currently appear to be engaged in a homosexual romantic relationship, by what reasoning could Ultrasound justify the decision to refuse something as simple as providing music at a birthday party?

              Perhaps he just didn't want to watch a room full of homosexuals bumping, grinding and making out.
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                There was a time when progressives valued freedom
                I think it was always just lip service.
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by seer View Post
                  Perhaps he just didn't want to watch a room full of homosexuals bumping, grinding and making out.
                  That sounds about par for the course for a 60th birthday party. Not.

                  Sympathy meter still reading at "negligible."
                  Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                    That sounds about par for the course for a 60th birthday party. Not.

                    The mental images my imagination is supplying in response to your comment are awesome.
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by seer View Post
                      Perhaps he just didn't want to watch a room full of homosexuals bumping, grinding and making out.
                      Because I'm sure a 60-year old man would have enough energy and physical stamina to be bumping, grinding and making out at his birthday party.

                      There is currently no indication that anything you imagine would be occurring. That's really your delusional fantasy of what a gay person is like? You automatically assume that people who simply happen to have brains that are wired to feel attraction only to people of the same sex will behave lasciviously?
                      Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                      I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                        There is currently no indication that anything you imagine would be occurring. That's really your delusional fantasy of what a gay person is like? You automatically assume that people who simply happen to have brains that are wired to feel attraction only to people of the same sex will behave lasciviously?
                        The birthday parties I've attended of gay friends have 100% involved standing around and talking. I'll grant you that often we had alcohol in the glasses we were holding as we talked, and often there was some background pop music playing... that's as out there as I've ever seen it get.

                        To be fair though, any party that has a DJ is inherently going to be a little more upbeat and rowdy, although not necessarily much more so. I could 100% understand if the DJ's objection was "I only do quiet parties, and it sounds like what you're wanting is someone who does the sort of parties that have the neighbors all calling the cops." But from the sounds of it, that wasn't what happened here.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                          That sounds about par for the course for a 60th birthday party. Not.

                          Sympathy meter still reading at "negligible."
                          Really? I doubt it was going to be a sixty plus only party. If it really was so sedate then why have a DJ in the first place. In any case, I have no problem with a Christian not wanting to be involved with sodomites.
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                            So until/unless details that change these things arrive, shouldn't you retract your claim expressed in this post, since it currently is irrelevant to this incident?
                            No.
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by seer View Post
                              Really? I doubt it was going to be a sixty plus only party. If it really was so sedate then why have a DJ in the first place. In any case, I have no problem with a Christian not wanting to be involved with sodomites.
                              Aha. So you're basically admitting that your objection to things like bakers making cakes for gay weddings isn't influenced by "religious freedom based on sincere belief about the immorality of same-sex marriage." It's influenced by your desire for Christians to be able to be mean and unfair to people who happen to be gay.

                              They're people, seer. Human beings, made in the image of God. Beloved by God. Not "sodomites."

                              By your apparent logic, you'd be in favor of Christian surgeons refusing to perform life-saving surgery on critically injured patients who happen to be gay.
                              Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                              I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                                No.
                                This incident apparently has no relevance to the possibility of gay people trying to adversely affect you via gay marriage. There's no relevance of any type of marriage at all here. Every fact we have so far indicates that the Ultrasound people are being unfair here. You don't care about accuracy?
                                Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                                I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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