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    Early Saturday morning a man identified as James Lance Boulware opened fire on a Dallas, Texas police station saying that he blamed the police for losing custody of his son and because they had supposedly accused him of “being a terrorist.” Fortunately nobody was hurt in his attack and he was later shot and killed after fleeing the scene by a police sniper using a .50-caliber rifle in Hutchins, a city just south of Dallas following a standoff that lasted several hours.

    Dallas Police Chief David Brown said the attack began with fire from an “automatic weapon,” after which the suspect “transitioned to a shotgun" from what is being described as an armored van equiped with gun ports built into the side and bullet-proof glass. Before Boulware started shooting he left a couple of pipe bombs in the parking lot at police headquarters that, according to a police spokesman, contained "lots of shrapnel" including nails and screws. At least two more pipe bombs were later found in the van.

    Here are a couple of news accounts:

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        Source: Mediate.Com

        During a discussion on the Dallas Police headquarters shooting this afternoon, CNN anchor Fredricka Whitfield appears to have really misspoken in referring to the gunman’s actions as “courageous and brave.”

        Whitfield was speaking to CNN legal analyst Philip Holloway when she said this:

        “It was very courageous and brave, if not crazy as well, to open fire on the police headquarters, and now you have this scene, this standoff. So you believe these are the hallmarks of more than one person’s involvement.”

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        Courageous and Brave?
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          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Source: Mediate.Com

          During a discussion on the Dallas Police headquarters shooting this afternoon, CNN anchor Fredricka Whitfield appears to have really misspoken in referring to the gunman’s actions as “courageous and brave.”

          Whitfield was speaking to CNN legal analyst Philip Holloway when she said this:

          “It was very courageous and brave, if not crazy as well, to open fire on the police headquarters, and now you have this scene, this standoff. So you believe these are the hallmarks of more than one person’s involvement.”

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          Courageous and Brave?
          Channeling Bill Maher who on his show Politically Incorrect basically praised the courage of the 9/11 terrorists roughly a week after the attack?
          We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That’s cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it’s not cowardly.

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            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            Channeling Bill Maher who on his show Politically Incorrect basically praised the courage of the 9/11 terrorists roughly a week after the attack?
            We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That’s cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it’s not cowardly.
            Well, that ain't untrue, as far as courage goes. Reminds me of "The Screwtape Letters":

            Source: The Screwtape Letters. CS Lewis



            Well, I am afraid it is no good trying to make him brave. Our research department has not yet discovered (though success is hourly expected) how to produce any virtue. This is a serious handicap. To be greatly and effectively wicked a man needs some virtue. What would Attila have been without his courage, or Shylock without self-denial as regards the flesh? But as we cannot supply these qualities ourselves, we can only use them as supplied by the Enemy—and this means leaving Him a kind of foothold in those men whom, otherwise, we have made most securely our own. A very unsatisfactory arrangement, but, I trust, we shall one day learn to do better.

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            Though, of course, there's the issue of timing and tact.
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              Originally posted by Sam View Post
              Well, that ain't untrue, as far as courage goes. Reminds me of "The Screwtape Letters":

              Source: The Screwtape Letters. CS Lewis



              Well, I am afraid it is no good trying to make him brave. Our research department has not yet discovered (though success is hourly expected) how to produce any virtue. This is a serious handicap. To be greatly and effectively wicked a man needs some virtue. What would Attila have been without his courage, or Shylock without self-denial as regards the flesh? But as we cannot supply these qualities ourselves, we can only use them as supplied by the Enemy—and this means leaving Him a kind of foothold in those men whom, otherwise, we have made most securely our own. A very unsatisfactory arrangement, but, I trust, we shall one day learn to do better.

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              Though, of course, there's the issue of timing and tact.
              AFAICT most of the terrorists had no idea what the true plan was so no courage was involved there. The ones who did know were insanely fanatical. Those sort of people are fearless. For me to be truly courageous you must experience fear. To be truly courageous you must overcome that fear.

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                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                AFAICT most of the terrorists had no idea what the true plan was so no courage was involved there. The ones who did know were insanely fanatical. Those sort of people are fearless. For me to be truly courageous you must experience fear. To be truly courageous you must overcome that fear.
                Well, we likely will never be able to say one way or another with this guy in Texas. The 9/11 terrorists clearly knew the true plan and their co-conspirators seemed to be mentally acute enough that it'd be hard to claim with any degree of certainty that they were fearless (meaning literally a psychological lack of fear). I could pretty easily see courage playing a factor in either of these acts of terror.

                The last week or so I've seen a couple people argue that empathy and kindness can easily be used by evil forces to achieve evil ends. No reason that any virtue, improperly used, cannot contribute to evil.
                "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  AFAICT most of the terrorists had no idea what the true plan was so no courage was involved there. The ones who did know were insanely fanatical. Those sort of people are fearless. For me to be truly courageous you must experience fear. To be truly courageous you must overcome that fear.


                  Are you suggesting that no true religious believer who truly believes in an afterlife can ever die courageously? Or that, insofar as they do experience some fear, due to some level of doubt in their religious convictions, that the amount of courage they can have is limited to the amount they doubt their religion?

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                    Originally posted by Sam View Post
                    Well, we likely will never be able to say one way or another with this guy in Texas. The 9/11 terrorists clearly knew the true plan and their co-conspirators seemed to be mentally acute enough that it'd be hard to claim with any degree of certainty that they were fearless (meaning literally a psychological lack of fear). I could pretty easily see courage playing a factor in either of these acts of terror.

                    The last week or so I've seen a couple people argue that empathy and kindness can easily be used by evil forces to achieve evil ends. No reason that any virtue, improperly used, cannot contribute to evil.
                    I've read several news story that indicated that most of the participants of the 9/11 attack thought that they were participating in a simple hijacking. Apparently they weren't trusted with the truth.

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                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post


                      Are you suggesting that no true religious believer who truly believes in an afterlife can ever die courageously? Or that, insofar as they do experience some fear, due to some level of doubt in their religious convictions, that the amount of courage they can have is limited to the amount they doubt their religion?
                      I can only imagine how you came to that conclusion.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        I've read several news story that indicated that most of the participants of the 9/11 attack thought that they were participating in a simple hijacking. Apparently they weren't trusted with the truth.
                        The pilots, at the very least, knew the deal. And I would imagine that it takes a pretty high amount of courage (or psychopathy) to do even a simple hijacking.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sam View Post
                          Well, that ain't untrue, as far as courage goes.
                          Right, as Grégoire Chamayou notes in Drone Theory the modern trend towards attacking while severely minimising the change of risk to that attacker (with drones being the current epitome) forms the direct antithesis of the kamikaze or suicide attacks where the warrior maximises risk to himself.

                          Originally posted by Starlight
                          Are you suggesting that no true religious believer who truly believes in an afterlife can ever die courageously? Or that, insofar as they do experience some fear, due to some level of doubt in their religious convictions, that the amount of courage they can have is limited to the amount they doubt.
                          It's the typical wartime dehumanising of the enemy, meant to strip the enemy of any possible virtue - ie. courage - and should be treated as primarily rhetorical.

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                          • #14
                            What an idiot:

                            CNN Anchor Refers to Dallas Gunman’s Actions as ‘Courageous and Brave

                            http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-ancho...ous-and-brave/
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                              Originally posted by seer View Post
                              What an idiot:

                              CNN Anchor Refers to Dallas Gunman’s Actions as ‘Courageous and Brave

                              http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-ancho...ous-and-brave/
                              The only idiot I see here is someone who doesn't read the thread before posting something that's already been posted and discussed.

                              Well, and those, as Paprika aptly put it, who insist on dehumanizing their enemies, by insisting that someone who they hate can't possibly ever have any virtues whatsoever and isn't allowed to be described with any descriptive words that can be considered positive, regardless of how accurate those words might be.

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