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  • #31
    With all the world's obsession with sexuality, my motto has become: "Order at any cost."

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    • #32
      Originally posted by fm93 View Post
      I mean, come on.
      Calm yourself, brother. I asked a simple question.

      Jenner: Claims to have the body of a male, but feels like a woman inside.
      Truth: Jenner DOES have the body of a male, and (apparently) DOES feel like a woman inside. Jenner is telling the truth.[/q]
      Meh - he's confused - wouldn't be bit surprised if, down the road, he realizes he made a terrible mistake.

      Dozadel: Claims to have a father who is black, meaning that she's black too.
      Truth: Dozadel's father is NOT black, and neither is her mother, meaning that she is NOT black. Dozadel is telling a lie.
      Yeah, you said that. And I got it!

      But, please, make ANOTHER post on the same subject!!!
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        That is so unkind. And here, I'm trying to be nice to you, and simply asked a question.
        My apologies, then. I just thought it was clear that she was claiming to literally be black, rather than saying "I'm white but feel like a black person inside."
        Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

        I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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        • #34
          Originally posted by fm93 View Post
          My apologies, then. I just thought it was clear that she was claiming to literally be black, rather than saying "I'm white but feel like a black person inside."
          I missed the part where she was actually claiming to have a black father. Which is why I asked.

          And I don't think I could have been any more polite:

          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Can you provide the quote please where Dolazel claims to be biologically black?

          Thanks
          Last edited by Cow Poke; 06-12-2015, 10:22 PM.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            I missed the part where she was actually claiming to have a black father. Which is why I asked.
            I skimmed through a similar article so I made the same mistake.
            Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Pentecost View Post
              I skimmed through a similar article so I made the same mistake.
              Be prepared, Pent --- I am about to beat you severely about the head and shoulders!






              maybe not
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Be prepared, Pent --- I am about to beat you severely about the head and shoulders!



                maybe not
                I hope you're polite like fm and apologize after. If not... I dunno. Maybe I'll start cluttering the thread and get off topic.
                Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

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                • #38
                  In all the interviews I've seen of her she seems to be very careful not to say that her father is black. In fact, when presented with a picture of her white father, she admits that that is her father. On another occasion she says that she doesn't consider her biological parents to be parents, and she admits that while her "son" is actually her adoptive brother, she considers him her son because of how she took care of him. She also rejected the term "African-American" and said that she prefers the term "black". When asked point blank is she regarded herself as black, she said she did, but the underlining sense is that she considers herself to be black on her own terms.
                  Last edited by Adrift; 06-13-2015, 02:58 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Be prepared, Pent --- I am about to beat you severely about the head and shoulders!
                    My drill instructor used to say that to me. And actually did it a couple of times.
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Pentecost View Post
                      I hope you're polite like fm and apologize after. If not... I dunno. Maybe I'll start cluttering the thread and get off topic.
                      I don't think I like my phrasing here, I was trying to be playful but don't think it comes across, if I could delete this I would, so please pay it no mind. Apologies to either CP or fm if they took that in a harsher spirit than intended.
                      Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Pentecost View Post
                        I don't think I like my phrasing here, I was trying to be playful but don't think it comes across, if I could delete this I would, so please pay it no mind. Apologies to either CP or fm if they took that in a harsher spirit than intended.
                        You're fine, Pent - no prob whatsoever!
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                          In all the interviews I've seen of her she seems to be very careful not to say that her father is black.
                          Yeah, that's what I was getting, which is why I asked.

                          In fact, when presented with a picture of her white father, she admits that that is her father. On another occasion she says that she doesn't consider her biological parents to be parents, and she admits that while her "son" is actually her adoptive brother, she considers him her son because of how she took care of him. She also rejected the term "African-American" and said that she prefers the term "black". When asked point blank is she regarded herself as black, she said she did, but the underlining sense is that she considers herself to be black on her own terms.
                          That's the impression I got - so I wondered if there was an actual quote of her backing up fm's allegation.

                          I guess it doesn't really matter, though - she's obviously a scam.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Pentecost View Post
                            I don't think I like my phrasing here, I was trying to be playful but don't think it comes across, if I could delete this I would, so please pay it no mind. Apologies to either CP or fm if they took that in a harsher spirit than intended.
                            Too late for that now.
                            Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Adrift
                              What are people's thoughts about this. Do you think there's any corollary between this sort of reidentification and that of the transgender community?
                              Earlier progressive ideas and movements were meant to distinguish and/or privilege certain groups eg women over men, blacks over white, which of course implicitly assumes some sort of rigid boundaries. The trans movement is capable of undoing all this by erasing or severely weakening the boundary - if gender is a social construct and if race is a social construct then just as one can identify as another gender, so can one identify as another race - so we should look forward to the progressive self-destruction.

                              Remember, Michael Jackson was a victim of cisracism.

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                              • #45
                                I am a transbillionaire. I have the wealth of a middle class person but I feel like I should be a billionaire. Please help me change into my real self and send me all your money. Thanks.

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