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Originally posted by Paprika View PostLeaving aside the important point about whether the facts presented are cherrypicked, progressives don't care about rational discussion; their modus operandi is to work on people's feels to get them to agree.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostNever been called a conservative before.
I see transexuality as part of the already established gay/lesbian movement.
The war has hardly begun to rage in earnest and you want to leave it all behind.
Homosexuals are now widely accepted and their behaviour normalised in the USA, and any opposition vilified. But the same is hardly true for transsexuals, which is why the fight remains.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostHomosexuals are now widely accepted and their behaviour normalised in the USA, and any opposition vilified. But the same is hardly true for transsexuals, which is why the fight remains.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by fm93 View PostAs long as the facts being presented about homosexuality are true, what's wrong with this?
I watched the film last winter, and I didn't come away with the impression that the film particularly emphasized his homosexuality.
Obviously the mention was there, but for some reason what resonated with me wasn't his sexuality so much as the loneliness that I perceived he felt. It seemed to be displaying a universal theme with his homosexuality as the backdrop.Last edited by Adrift; 06-05-2015, 02:12 PM.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostMy bad, I forgot the apostrophes.
The war has hardly begun to rage in earnest and you want to leave it all behind.
Homosexuals are now widely accepted and their behaviour normalised in the USA, and any opposition vilified. But the same is hardly true for transsexuals, which is why the fight remains.
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Adrift,
Your posts in this thread contain numerous factual inaccuracies... so I am left wondering what sources you've been getting your weird information from.
Prior to playing Turing in the movie, Benedict Cumberbatch read quite a few biographies of Turing to research the man so he could play the character accurately. He choose to make limited stylistic changes (particularly lisping less than the real Turing) to make the character more comprehensible to the audience.
NAMBLA was never connected with any mainstream gay rights movement and has never wielded any political power or influence within the wider gay rights movement. When the first gay rights parade was held, the organizers made it open to everyone, and NAMBLA put a float in the parade without the knowledge of the organizers. This caused so much offence and outrage among the gay community of the time that NAMBLA was immediately banned from ever participating again. Your factual misrepresentations about "years of working together" are highly slanderous and offensive toward everyone who has done any sort of campaigning or advocacy for gay rights, myself included. If you are interested in the topic of pedophiles getting into positions of power, you're much better looking into the Catholic church and the Republican party, both of whom have had a significant number of more recent scandals on the topic. Edit: Ah, I reread your posts and I see your source of the claim was the pedophiles... do you always believe all claims that pedophiles make about how what they do is acceptable, or just when their made-up claims conveniently fuel your anti-gay rhetoric?Last edited by Starlight; 06-05-2015, 06:24 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNAMBLA was never connected with any mainstream gay rights movement ...
It doesn't take much Googling at all to show that some of the early evangelists of the Gay Rights movement were also associated with NAMBLA.Last edited by Cow Poke; 06-05-2015, 06:32 PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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