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  • Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
    But not all humans are as stupid as ff.
    or JimL, for that matter.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
      But not all humans are as stupid as ff.
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      or JimL, for that matter.
      Hard as it is to believe, there are humans who are even dumber than these two.

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      • Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post
        Okay.... So why not fix the brain?
        That's an option. Therapy, neurosurgery, or medication might work. But what if they don't?

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        • Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
          But not all humans are as stupid as ff.
          I heard this interesting story on the radio this evening:

          During WWII the Germans used statistical analysis of bullet holes in bomber aircraft returning from missions to decide how best to distribute armour on the aircraft. They found that most planes were shot through the fuselage so they put the additional armour on the engine cowlings. Why?
          “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
          “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
          “not all there” - you know who you are

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          • Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
            That's an option. Therapy, neurosurgery, or medication might work. But what if they don't?
            Then keep trying.
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
              Hard as it is to believe, there are humans who are even dumber than these two.
              No doubt. Some of them are serving in congress.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                That's an option. Therapy, neurosurgery, or medication might work. But what if they don't?
                Imagine we took your approach to suicide.

                Enabling physical solutions to mental issues is not a great idea.
                "It's evolution; every time you invent something fool-proof, the world invents a better fool."
                -Unknown

                "Preach the gospel, and if necessary use words." - Most likely St.Francis


                I find that evolution is the best proof of God.
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                • Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post
                  Imagine we took your approach to suicide.

                  Enabling physical solutions to mental issues is not a great idea.
                  I was thinking the same thing. What about people who eat glass or metal? Then I figured, eh, if he thinks that people chopping off their arms and legs is a viable solution to mental illness, he'd probably be okay with anything as long as it "doesn't hurt anyone else". We live in very strange times where nothing is forbidden as long as it physically doesn't involve other people's privacy bubbles. Course, allowing people to self harm, or commit suicide does harm others, but most people who think the way that PM does simply can't see the bigger picture. It's a shame.
                  Last edited by Adrift; 06-07-2015, 08:10 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                    That's an option. Therapy, neurosurgery, or medication might work. But what if they don't?
                    Neurosurgery would indicate it is a physiological problem, but it's not.

                    One option: help them understand that "gender" is a social construct.
                    The fact that science cannot make any pronouncement about ethical principles has been misinterpreted as indicating that there are no such principles; while in fact the search for truth presupposes ethics. - Karl Popper, 1987

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                    • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                      Then keep trying.
                      That's not how medicine works. We don't tell people dying of cancer or suffering from depression "too bad, we don't have a cure yet". We use chemotherapy or antidepressants, despite being harmful in other ways or not knowing exactly how they work, respectively. When someone is suffering, they only care about alleviating the symptoms. Not being able to go for sound treatment at a cost they are willing to pay because Bill the Cat, medical layperson, doesn't like it seems pretty callous and nonsensical to me.

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                      • Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post
                        Imagine we took your approach to suicide.

                        Enabling physical solutions to mental issues is not a great idea.
                        Major medical bodies do not recommend suicide as a cure for attempting suicide.

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                        • Originally posted by Dante View Post
                          Neurosurgery would indicate it is a physiological problem, but it's not.

                          One option: help them understand that "gender" is a social construct.
                          How do you know it's not a physiological problem?

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                          • Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                            How do you know it's not a physiological problem?
                            Because we don't assume it is a physiological problem without any evidence of it being one.

                            This is a good read on the subject:
                            http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/06/15108/
                            The fact that science cannot make any pronouncement about ethical principles has been misinterpreted as indicating that there are no such principles; while in fact the search for truth presupposes ethics. - Karl Popper, 1987

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                            • Originally posted by Dante View Post
                              Because we don't assume it is a physiological problem without any evidence of it being one.

                              This is a good read on the subject:
                              http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/06/15108/
                              The first part is worth the read......

                              Supporters of transgender ideology believe that they are freeing people from restrictive understandings of gender. In reality, the more our society tries to free itself from gender stereotypes, the more it becomes enslaved to them. By saying that people can be born in a body of the wrong gender, transgender activists are saying there is a set of feelings that are only allocated to women and another set for men.


                              That makes WAY too much sense!
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • It would, CP, but sadly it's not actually, you know, accurate.

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