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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe growing extremism of the right in the Republican Party."Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd you think that the growing extremism of the left in the Democratic Party is... what, more responsible? More civil?
More respectful of Republican leaders?Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-16-2015, 09:59 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNo. The Extreme right T party choose a radical no compromise conservative religious based block of votes.
I great deal of the abuse of Obama comes from this block. The Democratic Party did not make such a pact of extremism in opposition to the Republican Party.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jesse View PostMmm. Look at all of that delicious political bias.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWow. I'm assuming you're referring to the Tea Party? You don't think they've realized that they actually have to get candidates elected in order to govern? Can you give me an example of half a dozen or so "radical no compromise conservatives" in office today?
[cite=http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/32-republicans-who-caused-the-government-shutdown/280236/]
Friday was the fourth day of the government shutdown, and there’s still no sign of an exit. What’s surprising about the ongoing fight is how a small group of members of Congress have managed to bring Washington to a halt. Just months ago, Speaker John Boehner was warning that forcing the government to shut down over Obamacare or anything else was politically hazardous. Yet Boehner remains stuck, his strategy dictated by a small rump of members in the Republican caucus who refuse to budge. On Monday night, as government funding ran out, a group of around 40 hardline conservatives refused to support any resolution to fund the government that didn't defund Obamacare. Since Monday night, their goals may have become less clear, but their resolve has not weakened. While it’s widely believed that a “clean” resolution would pass the House handily, it would also likely lead to a right-wing rebellion in the caucus that would spell the end of Boehner’s speakership.
So who are those hardliners? To compile this list, we started with a roster that the Senate Conservatives Fund, a group aligned with Ted Cruz, created of representatives who were allied with them. We cross-checked it with the list of members who signed an August letter by Rep. Mark Meadows demanding that Boehner use a shutdown as a threat to defund Obamacare, and against other public statements this week. It's not a comprehensive roll — there’s no official “wacko bird” caucus that keeps a register — but it's a window into the small but powerful group of men and women in the House of Representatives who brought the federal government to a standstill.
Representative: Justin Amash - Home District: Grand Rapids, Michigan
Representative: Michele Bachmann - Home District: Stillwater, Minnesota
Representative: Marsha Blackburn - Home District: Brentwood, Tennessee
Representative: Mo Brooks - Home District: Huntsville, Alabama
Representative: Paul Broun - Home District: Athens, Georgia
Representative: John Carter - Home District: Round Rock, Texas
Representative: John Culberson - Home District: Houston, Texas
Representative: Ron DeSantis - Home District: Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida
Representative: Scott DesJarlais - Home District: Jasper, Tennessee
Representative: Jeff Duncan - Home District: Laurens, South Carolina
Representative: John Fleming - Home District: Minden, Louisiana
Representative: Scott Garrett - Home District: Wantange Township, New Jersey
Representative: Phil Gingrey - Home District: Marietta, Georgia
Representative: Louie Gohmert - Home District: Tyler, Texas
Representative: Tom Graves - Home District: Ranger, Georgia
Representative: Vicky Hartzler - Home District: Harrisonville, Missouri
Representative: Tim Huelskamp - Home District: Fowler, Kansas
Representative: Jim Jordan - Home District: Urbana, Ohio
Representative: Steve King - Home District: Kiron, Iowa
Representative: Raul Labrador - Home District: Eagle, Idaho
Representative: Tom Massie - Home District: Garrison, Kentucky
Representative: Tom McClintock - Home District: Elk Grove, California
Representative: Mark Meadows - Home District: Cashier, North Carolina
Representative: Randy Neugebauer - Home District: Lubbock, Texas
Representative: Matt Salmon - Home District: Mesa, Arizona
Representative: Mark Sanford - Home District: Charleston, South Carolina
Representative: Steve Scalise - Home District: Jefferson, Louisiana
Representative: Dave Schweikert - Home District: Fountain Hills, Arizona
Representative: Steve Stockman - Home District: Clear Lake, Texas
Representative: Marlin Stutzman - Home District: Howe, Indiana
Representative: Randy Weber - Home District: Pearland, Texas
Representative: Ted Yoho - Home District: Gainesville, FloridaGlendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI am a political independent that grew up in a Republican family. I go by the facts of the history of the Tea Party. Air Ball!!! Nothing in the above represents a factual response"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostLincoln and Obama. A close draw, ah . . . I do not mind Obama as being the second most abusively maligned President in history.
You have a very active imagination. Bush has been portrayed in all sorts of fashions and even flat out death threats were made against him without a peep from the media. Yet, anybody says anything critical against Obama and everybody throws a fit. Telling you this though is a waste of time because you're incapable of seeing reality and incapable of ever admitting to error."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThose that signed the 'No Compromise Agreement.' partial list in the following article.
It's called "politics".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI am a political independent that grew up in a Republican family.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think, Shuny, you're a left wing extremist who doesn't have the guts to admit it.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostName calling is not constructive response.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostName calling is not constructive response.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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