You Evil Parents!

[lilpixieofterror]

Again, you GUESS based on your evaluation of his analysis. But you have no proof that he didn't read the article outside of your opinion.



An analysis again. Bot no proof that Seer "didn't read the source article". You don't like his conclusion, that's one thing. But declaring that he "didn't read the source article" is another.

The question in Sam's mind isn't if it is true or false, but if a democrat or republican supports it. If a democrat (or liberal) supports it, he will defend it, no matter what. If a republican (or conservative) supports it, he will find a way to refute it, no matter what.

[Paprika]

All they really need to do is promote families properly.

This is completely vague and only solves one problem, using the flawed mindset that "Equality" needs to be maximised.

[Paprika]

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You know how I am with exceptionalism, but I can't find a source for that anywhere.

[KingsGambit]

I doubt the quote myself; surely Carson would have felt the same for at least one iteration of Israel over time.

[Darth Executor]

... and yet ANOTHER thread where we find something construed as objectionable and use it to claim the ENTIRE progressive side of politics is insane and/or evil.

Let's just remind ourselves as somebody famous once said 'He that is without sin cast the first stone.'

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Made-up quote indicative of disinterest in truth and lack of intellectual rigor, sexual slur snuck in for good measure. Yep, it's a pancreasman post.

[pancreasman]

If the quote is in error, I'll gladly retract it. Let me look for a source.

[Darth Ovious]

... and yet ANOTHER thread where we find something construed as objectionable and use it to claim the ENTIRE progressive side of politics is insane and/or evil.

So you admit that this article was the view point of progressives?

I don't know what's worse, the fact that you don't see anything wrong about this or the fact that you admit that this is progressive politics.

[Darth Ovious]

This is completely vague and only solves one problem, using the flawed mindset that "Equality" needs to be maximised.

What can I say. I wish the best for everyone. I understand that trying to force "equality" isn't possible but promoting healthy families isn't something that needs to cost a lot of money. It just needs to be seen as the truth by politicians and the media.

[One Bad Pig]

... and yet ANOTHER thread where we find something construed as objectionable and use it to claim the ENTIRE progressive side of politics is insane and/or evil.

Let's just remind ourselves as somebody famous once said 'He that is without sin cast the first stone.'

p-man, you know full well that some people on both sides of the divide castigate the other side as irredeemably insane and/or evil (ironically, you use a source which does the very same thing you decry for the graphic you posted). Please don't just snipe from the sidelines.

[Bill the Cat]

What can I say. I wish the best for everyone. I understand that trying to force "equality" isn't possible but promoting healthy families isn't something that needs to cost a lot of money. It just needs to be seen as the truth by politicians and the media.

Wanting everyone to better themselves isn't "Egalite" as Paprika used it, from what I see. To paraphrase Syndrome from the Incredibles... "Once everyone is super... no one will be."

[Paprika]

What can I say. I wish the best for everyone.

My point is that there will always be great inequalities so you can't just assume that efforts to decrease them are sufficient but should also seriously deal with the fact that because of great disparities class systems will arise, instead of merely blindly repeating the myths of Equality and Democracy which only serve as smokescreen as the elite accumulate more power.

[Cow Poke]

They were already doing that at the school I went to. The "advanced classes" just took those of us with higher grades out of the classroom to do nothing while the other kids got a chance to catch up. It was sickening really. So glad I was able to get my mom to pull me out of that.

Yeah, but it has its advantages -- I was pretty good at English, so they took those of us who could read, write and spell (not counting titles of threads) and forced us to take typing so they could work with the kids who needed help with English.

A) I noticed in typing class I was the only guy in a roomful of GIRLS!
2) I was forced to learn to type way back in a day when nobody realized how valuable that would be when computers became prevalent!

[Cerebrum123]

Yeah, but it has its advantages -- I was pretty good at English, so they took those of us who could read, write and spell (not counting titles of threads) and forced us to take typing so they could work with the kids who needed help with English.

A) I noticed in typing class I was the only guy in a roomful of GIRLS!
2) I was forced to learn to type way back in a day when nobody realized how valuable that would be when computers became prevalent!

They did not teach us anything while we were away from class. They went and had us sit in the cafeteria doing nothing other than waiting to go back to class.

[Darth Ovious]

My point is that there will always be great inequalities so you can't just assume that efforts to decrease them are sufficient but should also seriously deal with the fact that because of great disparities class systems will arise, instead of merely blindly repeating the myths of Equality and Democracy which only serve as smokescreen as the elite accumulate more power.

I don't disagree with this. Inequality will always exist in some sort of form for people to complain about. It's just recognising what forms are OK and what forms are bad for society but easily fixed.

[Paprika]

I don't disagree with this. Inequality will always exist in some sort of form for people to complain about. It's just recognising what forms are OK and what forms are bad for society but easily fixed.

For recognition intelligent discussion needs to be had, which is impossible when the mythology of Equality is used to shut down discussion of the relation of race and IQ, for example.

Or (to return to my point in that post) recognition is nigh-impossible when the myth of Democracy (one side of the Equality coin, the other being the myth of Communism) pretends that the individual has any significant power when as always a minority rules.