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  • Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Source: CBS DFW


    GARLAND (CBSDFW.COM) — Two suspects opened fire outside the Curtis Caldwell Center during a Muhammad art exhibit in Garland. CBS 11 was there to report on the exhibit before the chaos ensued. Reporter Gabriel Roxas and a CBS 11 camera team were in the building during the gunfire and placed in lockdown.

    The Garland event, called the “First Annual Muhammad Art Exhibit and Contest,” took place where the “Stand with the Prophet” conference was held in January. The event featured adaptations of the Islamic prophet.


    ****TIMELINE: DEVELOPING****


    7:45pm CT: Officers tell Gabriel Roxas that two suspects were shot dead. Pamela Geller, an organizer of the event, spoke to to CBS 11 from lockdown via phone at 7:45p CT. In addition to echoing our ground team, she told a news producer, “I heard officers talking of possible explosions in backpacks and the car.”

    8:11pm CT: Joe Harn of the Garland Police Department tells CBS 11 two men pulled up in vehicle on the roadway in front of the center and began firing at a Garland ISD security guard. Garland Police returned fire and killed both suspects.

    8:11pm CT: Suspects’ vehicle being checked for explosives. It is scheduled to be detonated.

    8:20pm CT: Authorities tell CBS 11 that SWAT will escort 48 people at a time out of arena soon, but many are parked in a now secured area and cannot access cars.

    8:30pm CT: Garland ISD spokesman Chris Moore says one of their security guards was shot. His name is Bruce Joiner. He has been with the district for 8 years. He has non-life threatening injuries after being shot once in the leg. He’s in stable condition at a local hospital.

    9:00pm CT: Security guard Bruce Joiner released from hospital.

    9:12pm CT: No press conference until authorities have cleared the suspects’ vehicle.

    9:29pm CT: Muslim Response to Dallas Shooting. Harris Zafar, Vice President of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Youth Association told CBS 11 via email: “People need to hear a strong Muslim voice condemning this insanity.”

    9:29pm CT: Suspects’ bodies still at the scene.


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    I guess this should no longer be shocking.
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

  • #2
    From everything I can see, the Garland Police and ISD officers acted quickly and professionally. Kudos to them.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      From everything I can see, the Garland Police and ISD officers acted quickly and professionally. Kudos to them.
      Yeah I am hearing the same. I guess it was just a matter of time that we would start seeing this hit here. Seems strange that it would hit Texas first though.
      "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jesse View Post
        I guess this should no longer be shocking.
        Right, it should be clear that trying to stir the pot in such a manner has consequences.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Paprika View Post
          Right, it should be clear that trying to stir the pot in such a manner has consequences.
          It's not something that I would do, but we have a history here in America of not letting terrorists dictate what types of speech we practice. So far the only consequences we have here are two dead nuts.
          "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jesse View Post
            It's not something that I would do, but we have a history here in America of not letting terrorists dictate what types of speech we practice.
            If you're going to aggressively provoke Muslims, then an aggressive reaction is what you'll get. It's as stupid as climbing over a fence in the zoo to poke a lion with a stick.

            So far the only consequences we have here are two dead nuts.
            You're fortunate, so far, given the slaughter that was Charlie Hebdo.

            And they're hardly nuts; they act rationally according to their worldview but go on diminishing the threat if it makes you feel better.
            Last edited by Paprika; 05-04-2015, 03:07 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Paprika View Post
              If you're going to aggressively provoke Muslims, then an aggressive reaction is what you'll get. It's as stupid as climbing over a fence in the zoo to poke a lion with a stick.
              Which is why I said it is something I wouldn't do.

              Originally posted by Paprika
              You're fortunate, so far, given the slaughter that was Charlie Hebdo.

              And they're hardly nuts; they act rationally according to their worldview but go on diminishing the threat if it makes you feel better.
              Considering that we have thousands of Muslims in this country that have the same worldview but don't go around shooting people at random, these two are indeed nuts.
              "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jesse View Post
                Considering that we have thousands of Muslims in this country that have the same worldview but don't go around shooting people at random, these two are indeed nuts.
                Muslims are hardly homogeneous just as Christians aren't.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jesse View Post
                  It's not something that I would do, but we have a history here in America of not letting terrorists dictate what types of speech we practice. So far the only consequences we have here are two dead nuts.
                  I would amend this somewhat; I think it would be more accurate to say "dictate what types of speech we allow". Many people who wouldn't want to outlaw such speech still wouldn't participate in it.
                  "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                    Right, it should be clear that trying to stir the pot in such a manner has consequences.
                    It's the weak's job to submit. The US has no reason to bow to the hate speech enforcement of muslims seeing how it can turn the entire middle east into a sheet of glass if it wanted to. As expensive as the Iraq war was, it wasn't millions of Americans who died because of it. Maybe they just need another round of Democracy Edited by a Moderator

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                    There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                      The US has no reason to bow to the hate speech enforcement of muslims seeing how it can turn the entire middle east into a sheet of glass if it wanted to.
                      Given how even the conservatives have consistently given way on political correctness bowing to hate speech enforcement is inevitable unless the progressive structure collapses.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                        Given how even the conservatives have consistently given way on political correctness bowing to hate speech enforcement is inevitable unless the progressive structure collapses.
                        Ordinarily I'd agree but conservatives seem to make an exception for Muslims and liberals allow it (IE: Obama helping Europe's retarded quest in Libya). I suspect most liberals have a subconscious fear of Islam (not unwarranted considering how their efforts to corrupt the Islamic world has not had nearly the same successful track record it had in corrupting the Christian world) so they're willing to look the other way..
                        "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                        There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                          Muslims are hardly homogeneous just as Christians aren't.
                          You are right. There are some nutty "Christians" just like there are some nutty "Muslims".
                          Last edited by Jesse; 05-04-2015, 01:10 PM.
                          "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jesse View Post
                            You are right..

                            As is very clear, being in the minority hardly implies insanity.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Paprika View Post

                              As is very clear, being in the minority hardly implies insanity.
                              I am not sure what you are trying to argue here. Anyone who shoots up an exhibit being attended by random people is clearly not all there mentally.
                              "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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