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Originally posted by Yttrium View PostThere is no such thing as natural justice. Let people run all over each other, and there will be those who will.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostThe logical conclusion of this is that nothing should be illegal. Pure stupidity as usual.
We are so accustomed to living in a world “planted thick with laws from coast to coast” that we really have no idea what it would be like to be truly free. Most people don’t know the laws that govern them so what laws are really is the weapon that your oppressor uses to control your ambition.
I would think that laws ought to be arranged to inhibit the abuse of corporate power and wealth but leave ordinary citizens to do pretty much what they want to do.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThe impulse to control and police other people leads, in extreme circumstances...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, why don't you start a thread about that, and stop derailing this one.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostApropos your OP; police stupidity, cover-ups and victim blaming are currently being exposed in the long overdue UK Hillsborough Inquiry. 96 people crushed to death at a football stadium in 1989. All part of the policeman’s moral code the world over and these are supposed to be the good guys.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostDo you, like, pull long and hard on a bong before posting such drivel?
At other times, I think they are all inside keeping an eye on the closed circuit televisions. You have guns, we have surveillance cameras.
“The British Security Industry Authority (BSIA) estimated there are up to 5.9 million closed-circuit television cameras in the country, including 750,000 in “sensitive locations” such as schools, hospitals and care homes.”“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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This problem became obvious when the police union preemptively proclaimed that these officers did, 'Nothing wrong.' What they should propose is the hope that the 'Truth of the unfortunate death should be determined in the courts.'Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThis problem became obvious when the police union preemptively proclaimed that these officers did, 'Nothing wrong.' What they should propose is the hope that the 'Truth of the unfortunate death should be determined in the courts.'The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Shuny - I didn't mean that to sound as harsh as it may appear.... The Police Union exists to protect their members at all costs. I don't think it serves them well to say things like "they have done nothing wrong", when, in all likelihood, there was at LEAST some negligence, gross or otherwise.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostShuny - I didn't mean that to sound as harsh as it may appear.... The Police Union exists to protect their members at all costs. I don't think it serves them well to say things like "they have done nothing wrong", when, in all likelihood, there was at LEAST some negligence, gross or otherwise.
Originally posted by Paprika View Post
For example, if you're going to call out the prosecutor for "rush to judgment", you should also call out groups such as the police union who claimed that "none of the officers involved are responsible for the death of Mr. Gray.
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Indeed, their business is not truth, which is why calling them out for it is necessary if you seek to tear down the Blue Wall. That action is understandable but inexcusable.
You want cops to stop automatically "having each others' back" in spite of the truth? Then you need to expose it when they do.Last edited by Paprika; 05-03-2015, 10:13 AM.
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