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Originally posted by Paprika View PostWhy do people of certain races commit crimes at a significantly higher rate than others?
Result greater poverty among blacks, and the result is higher crime among blacks,Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-16-2015, 08:53 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostLet's zoom in on crimes against cops, ie. felonious killings or attempts to kill police officers. Which races proportionately commit the most of such offences, and why?
See my previous post. For over 200 years the blacks in America have live in suppression and fear.Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-16-2015, 08:52 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm at a loss here -- I didn't grow up with "militant" blacks -- we always got along just fine. It's only been in the last 20 years or so that I've seen this 'confrontational' ... I don't even know how to explain it.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostWhat? Really?? Slavery, lynching’s, white supremacy, Jin Crow laws, etc. No wonder they kept their heads bowed.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, somehow, in our neighborhood, we got past all that, and we called them friends. Yes, Really.Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-17-2015, 07:04 AM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostIt is possibly your neighborhood was an idealic exception, or maybe 'Mr. Roger's neighborhood.
or maybe the end of the 'Yellow Brick Road.' The reality of the Black history in the USA and much of the rest of the world is decidedly different.
I know this is difficult for you to understand, but a lot of families in the old days saw blacks as "readily available help". Is that a BAD thing? We needed help and they needed money, food and shelter. If you really wanted to get things done around the ranch, you didn't want an adversarial relationship with them, where you had to beat them into doing what you wanted done. You found a way to make it in their best interest. Perhaps it would have been more compassionate to keep them separate and let them struggle on their own?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I think you're taking some horrible and ugly examples, and assuming that was "normal".
This is not remotely related to the reality of race relations in our country. The 'ugly' example is in reality the history of our country that the white leaders of South Africa openly admired. In fact the Post Colonial white leaders of South Africa openly followed the example of the USA.
I know this is difficult for you to understand, but a lot of families in the old days saw blacks as "readily available help". Is that a BAD thing? We needed help and they needed money, food and shelter. If you really wanted to get things done around the ranch, you didn't want an adversarial relationship with them, where you had to beat them into doing what you wanted done. You found a way to make it in their best interest. Perhaps it would have been more compassionate to keep them separate and let them struggle on their own?
Are you remotely aware of the actual facts of our history of race relationships?Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Kristian Joensen View PostWhen two people have radically different experiences and disagree over what is most typical surely that is precisely the sort of thing you would settle using data and statistics?
The following is a quikie brief reference but reasonable. I will give many many more if needed. Penal Servitude is distinctly different from systems of work training and jobs provided in prisons for inmates.
Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-17-2015, 07:52 AM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe data and specifics are in the history books, surveys, records, laws on the books in the states and the country (ie Jim Crow Laws), records of penal slavery, and many more. I will cite many, for example the following:
The following is a quikie brief reference but reasonable. I will give many many more if needed. Penal Servitude is distinctly different from systems of work training and jobs provided in prisons for inmates.
Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Then there is John Burge of Chicago . . .
He got off easy and is now living in Florida. Justice?Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostCow Poke.
This is not remotely related to the reality of race relations in our country. The 'ugly' example is in reality the history of our country that the white leaders of South Africa openly admired. In fact the Post Colonial white leaders of South Africa openly followed the example of the USA.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Note: I believe the police officer in incident that resulted in the death of Michael Brown is justified in acting in his defense, but the investigation of the incident revealed an extremely disturbing pattern methodical abuse of Blacks in Ferguson.
Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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