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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe makeup alone weighs 50 lbs in a typical woman's purse, so a backpack should not be any problem at all.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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The use of "It works for Israel" is simply not a good argument for so many reasons.
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Originally posted by Paprika View Post
Please, no one is blaming women like “It’s all your fault that the battle was lost because you got injured and the males naturally turned to help you instead of fighting”.
Rather, it was observed that the presence of women tends to be disruptive and hence counterproductive. Which is why so few serve in combat roles in Israel.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostI don't see how it's fair to blame women for male soldiers not performing their duty.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostThe argument is women joined ground forces but men behaved poorly, therefore women should not join ground forces. The fault in this argument is obvious.
1. Women should be allowed because equality even though they are inferior soldiers and letting them in requires lowering standards and making the entire military less individually effective on average
2. Men try to protect the women instead of carrying out their orders. This is viewed as abnormal and a bad thing under liberal degeneracy.
3. Therefore the men are to blame.
At no point is the effectiveness of the military ever taken into account because it's all a status jockeying game to you (which is why you focus on the irrelevance of whether women are to blame or not). Women are denied access to a certain high status position, and something must be done regardless of the impact it has on anything else.
Here's how normal people interested in a functioning military think:
1. Women are physically inferior to men, to a degree most people fail to comprehend.
2. Men have a natural impulse to disregard their tasks and jump to the aid of the women, requiring that additional money and time be wasted making them even less human than military training already does, further dragging down the effectiveness of the military and making it even harder for them to integrate back into society after their service
3. There is zero reason to care about the status and career ambitions of any individual, let alone an individual who is highly likely to be a sub-par soldier.
4. Therefore it's better to just keep women out of combat units."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostThe argument is women joined ground forces but men behaved poorly, therefore women should not join ground forces. The fault in this argument is obvious.
Egalitarianism of the womyn actually harms them not least because it pushes them into taking physical loads that leads to much more injuries but the egalitarians clearly don't care.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostYou said that the most outstanding incident cited to you as a reason the military was reconsidering woman soldiers was because men behaved poorly.
But feel free to play silly games.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostThe fault is of the idiot who let the women join in the first place. The problem with you is that you think like this:
1. Women should be allowed because equality even though they are inferior soldiers and letting them in requires lowering standards and making the entire military less individually effective on average
2. Men try to protect the women instead of carrying out their orders. This is viewed as abnormal and a bad thing under liberal degeneracy.
3. Therefore the men are to blame.
At no point is the effectiveness of the military ever taken into account because it's all a status jockeying game to you (which is why you focus on the irrelevance of whether women are to blame or not). Women are denied access to a certain high status position, and something must be done regardless of the impact it has on anything else.
Here's how normal people interested in a functioning military think:
1. Women are physically inferior to men, to a degree most people fail to comprehend.
2. Men have a natural impulse to disregard their tasks and jump to the aid of the women, requiring that additional money and time be wasted making them even less human than military training already does, further dragging down the effectiveness of the military and making it even harder for them to integrate back into society after their service
3. There is zero reason to care about the status and career ambitions of any individual, let alone an individual who is highly likely to be a sub-par soldier.
4. Therefore it's better to just keep women out of combat units.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostNo one is blaming the women involved, correspondingly no one is blaming the men involved for obeying their instincts. However since the effectiveness of the military force is the goal and not egalitarianism of the womyn, Israelis keep most women out of combat.
Egalitarianism of the womyn actually harms them not least because it pushes them into taking physical loads that leads to much more injuries but the egalitarians clearly don't care.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWow. No, they weren't behaving poorly - nor did I say that! They were behaving as gentlemen. And I was recounting what a former IDF female Officer said. There's nothing there about "blaming women" unless you MAKE it that.... any more than you would "blame women" if people were to feel more upset about a woman soldier being tortured and raped than a man being tortured.
But feel free to play silly games.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostPenalizing a group of people because of something a different group of people did requires misdirected blame.
I hope that sounded better in your head, PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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