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  • They Will Ruin Our Military!

    This is both dangerous and stupid...


    A IOC diploma is a must to earn the designation of infantry officer. Of 29 women who tried, none graduated
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  • #2
    While I wouldn't say that women are ruining our military, I feel that they should be able to hit a certain standard that isn't easy to obtain by either genders.
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    • #3
      Physical strength isn't as important for the military as it used to be. I think the tests should be more endurance-based than strength-based.
      Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Yttrium View Post
        Physical strength isn't as important for the military as it used to be. I think the tests should be more endurance-based than strength-based.
        They should still be able to climb a rope wearing a standard backpack-full of equipment. It still requires a certain amount of upper body strength to get from point A to point B in battle space, which is rarely so convenient a location as an open field.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          They should still be able to climb a rope wearing a standard backpack-full of equipment. It still requires a certain amount of upper body strength to get from point A to point B in battle space, which is rarely so convenient a location as an open field.
          That depends on what a backpack-full of equipment needs to be. Equipment can be made very light these days.
          Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            They should still be able to climb a rope wearing a standard backpack-full of equipment. It still requires a certain amount of upper body strength to get from point A to point B in battle space, which is rarely so convenient a location as an open field.
            Not only that, but each combatant, when wounded, is dependent upon his/her "buddies", and they need to be able to pull or carry him/her to safety. As long as there are "boots on the ground", there will always be this physical requirement.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Yttrium View Post
              That depends on what a backpack-full of equipment needs to be. Equipment can be made very light these days.
              Soldiers cannot me made so light.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Soldiers cannot me made so light.
                Good point. But that's not the point of the rope climb.
                Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.

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                • #9
                  Everything else being equal it's better to have stronger soldiers than weaker soldiers. Lowering standards just because women (or anyone else who can't meet them) want to be soldiers should never, ever be done. Society validates attention whoring too much as it is.
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                  • #10
                    The Israeli Army has been effectively integrated by women since the formation of the State of Israel and before with no problems.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Yttrium View Post
                      Good point. But that's not the point of the rope climb.
                      In a way, it is - because it's proving upper body strength which is crucial.

                      Same thing with a lot of fire departments - they lowered their standards for strength because many women couldn't meet the standards, so some big strong firefighter may be totally dependent on some smaller lighter weaker woman to pull him to safety. It puts others at risk.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                        The Israeli Army has been effectively integrated by women since the formation of the State of Israel and before with no problems.
                        How do you know there were "no problems"?

                        Source: WND.com


                        “History shows that the presence of women has had a devastating impact on the effectiveness of men in battle,” wrote John Luddy in July 27, 1994, for the Heritage Foundation backgrounder.

                        “For example, it is a common misperception that Israel allows women in combat units. In fact, women have been barred from combat in Israel since 1950, when a review of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War showed how harmful their presence could be. The study revealed that men tried to protect and assist women rather than continue their attack. As a result, they not only put their own lives in greater danger, but also jeopardized the survival of the entire unit. The study further revealed that unit morale was damaged when men saw women killed and maimed on the battlefield,” Luddy said.

                        Writes Edward Norton, a reservist in the Israel Defense Forces: “Women have always played an important role in the Israeli military, but they rarely see combat; if they do, it is usually by accident. No one in Israel, including feminists, has any objection to this situation. The fact that the Persian Gulf War has produced calls to allow women on the front lines proves only how atypical that war was and how little Americans really understand combat.”

                        Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2001/08/10269/#0YoFGOlw07Yqz0Ag.99

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                        Last edited by Cow Poke; 04-20-2015, 04:56 PM.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                          The Israeli Army has been effectively integrated by women since the formation of the State of Israel and before with no problems.
                          And, since there is no valid source OTHER than the NYT, let's see what they have to say:

                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            There is also the issue of numbers, which Israel needs and the US does not. It's apples and oranges.
                            "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

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                            • #15
                              Solid points, Cow Poke. I've been wondering how well women are integrated in the Israeli military.
                              Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.

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