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Originally posted by Epoetker View PostWeak shots fired."It's evolution; every time you invent something fool-proof, the world invents a better fool."
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Originally posted by Epoetker View PostThere are levels of survival companies are prepared to accept. Especially when part of HCA, the largest hospital chain in the country.
Then why weren't the whistleblowers hired among the doctors rather than the managers and accountants? One might think that they had the most to gain.
2. Do you even know what a whistleblower is? You don't hire "whistleblowers", they blow a whistle, they're the prime mover.
Because Obamacare is head and shoulders more bureaucrat-controlled than the previous arrangements, meaning that he'll have a larger number of blatantly political operatives breathing down his neck for every coding exploit. Also, he happens to actually live in a state with his constituents.
I'm really not seeing the fact that he 'filled his pockets' as the primary complaint among any of the articles.
It's all RIPPING OFF THE MEDICAID SYSTEM and IMPROPER CODING and ADMITTING PEOPLE TO HOSPITALS WHO DON'T BELONG. On the other hand:
And on the other hand:
And on the other hand...
(Note: The domain on DrRich's original covertrationingblog.com site has expired, but you can now go here to get most of the same articles.)
There's plenty of historical precedent for the restructuring of the institution of government, and it starts by treating the Cathedral trifecta (media, academia, government) as fundamentally corrupted. Which they are. And which are now in fact losing their power due to their fundamental corruption.
There are tools which break those who wield them. I encourage people to avoid the fallout of that self destruction rather than picking them up.
Not saying that jackboots aren't often necessary, but if you rip them right off of a shambling corpse and throw them on without washing them out first, don't come crying to me when you mysteriously start stumbling around with unexplained gangrene and zombie infection.
Do also remember that the boots they have are often extremely well-adapted to one purpose and one purpose only, and you may find some rather nasty surprises among your erstwhile allies if you use them to stomp on evil rather than good or merely decent people.
That's why the goal is both the destruction of the Cathedral and the establishment of a conservative order. Starts with men as heads of household, goes up to guilds, businesses, and craft unions, to government, which, concerning itself only with matters of law rather than micro-life regulation, can in fact operate quickly, efficiently, and powerfully at what it does best, including jackbooting the faces of the proudly unrighteous."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostWorld.
1. How would the doctors know?
cost report fraud, physician kickback fraud, upcoding on inpatient emissions, upcoding on lab procedures and inappropriate lab and in-home visits.
2. Do you even know what a whistleblower is? You don't hire "whistleblowers", they blow a whistle, they're the prime mover.
anyone who reports Medicaid fraud may be entitled to a reward. To report supected cases of Medicaid fraud, call the Attorney General's Hotline at 1-866-966-7226. Rewards may be up to 25 percent of the amount recovered or a maximum of $500,000 per case.Schilling left the company in 1995 and sought whistleblower protection. In 1996, the FBI persuaded him to get back into Columbia/HCA so he could serve as an undercover informant.
But I'm only speaking from experience in the field, and you're speaking from....what, now, a servile appreciation of The Powers That Be? A newspaper report by an interested party and all of a sudden We Must Condemn Our Own?
He said he has no firsthand knowledge that Scott was involved but he believes he was not only aware of the fraudulent practices, he sanctioned them.
“I did not have day-to-day communication with Rick Scott. I had only met him once or twice while I was an employee there,’’ Schilling said.
“I’m basing my belief that he knew what was going on based on that he was as very hands on CEO of the company, that he was very involved in the organization and in communicating with employees. I knew that, working with government investigators, they thought he was a target and that he was orchestrating criminal conduct.”
Then you concede the point that he doesn't shamelessly extract money on his constituents' behalf. Glad we agree.
Why would you? It's the argument I"m making counter to your argument that he did it all for charity. Nobody uses your argument so there's no reason for the press to mention it.
What does this have to do with Rick Scott stealing taxpayer dollars to enrich his company (and by connection, his own pockets)? I don't care if the whistleblowers got rich off whistleblowing. They could be Hitler for all I care. Rick Scott himself isn't even denying the lawbreaking and wrongdoing.
Conservatives don't want to restructure it, they want to destroy it. Seeing how every people that isn't still rolling around in mud with banana penis sheaths has a government, academia and media it's a move contrary to civilization building and unworthy of consideration from anyone who isn't dreaming of larping Fallout 3.
The tool corrupts the man is a very liberal idea. It's why they try to ban guns.
Thankfully there is no bacteria on abstract tools.
Stick with guns and the righteous men who wield them as a team. If you don't have them, find them. If you can't find them, pray without ceasing until you do.
Bottoms up reform is egalitarian thinking and guaranteed to fail. Liberals corrupted civilization by corrupting the higher institutions first, then corruption trickled down to the masses. The masses follow the elite, not the other way around. It's as ironclad a rule of reality as you can get.
(From what I saw, the Communists only went to the universities when the trade, craft, business, and professional unions rejected them, and rose to power in the universities in direct proportion to their decline into aristocratic incubators. Community colleges and other such forgivers of lack of achievment seem to suit them better. But really, you need to stop speaking abstractly about "power centers" and start describing them concretely if you wish to get any use out of them, or form a team that can willingly sacrifice their lives and fortunes to turn them from wrecks into institutions!)Last edited by Epoetker; 04-30-2015, 02:23 AM.
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Originally posted by Epoetker View PostWhat, you think the doctors would just give up all control of Medicaid coding to the accounting department in return for getting paid reliably and not having to spend hours on doing all of their own accounting/dealing with the federal bureaucracy? What was that fraud again?
i.e., the doctors basically went with it, and were complicit.
Sorry, I might not have made these incentives clear enough:
An accountant, not a doctor, got himself into high dudgeon over his bosses getting the most they could out of the Feddle gubmint's badly written and randomly/maliciously enforced coding "guidelines", joined the team with more money and power, and got himself a cushy job on the side of the angels making far more than those small-time plebs who ran the hospital with a modicum of independence. I'm seeing where the cash flows to, but I'm not seeing that the POOR RIPPED OFF SENIORS are better off for having medical coding moved from people who people who made exploiting the codes their full-time job to doctors whose time could be spent, say, actually taking care of seniors. Did you actually click the links? Did you get the atmosphere of what it's like to work in those hospitals?
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...s_freedom.html
And I probably click your links more than anyone else here, even when they are frequently incoherent or of questionable relation to the subject at hand.
But I'm only speaking from experience in the field, and you're speaking from....what, now, a servile appreciation of The Powers That Be? A newspaper report by an interested party and all of a sudden We Must Condemn Our Own?
Yep, on this basis I'm totally going to go along with defaming a guy who actually did manage to keep a hospital running during his tenure.
There's an inability to do something and an inadvisability to do something.
I don't think an aggressive sales team does everything for charity either. Nevertheless, I'll have more sympathy for Team Sales when it goes up against Team Regulatory State and Team Mainstream Media.
If Rick Scott's a thief for being a Min-Maxing Medicare Code Munchkin, so is everyone at H&R Block.
The Puritans started it, their successors may decide to finish it at any time those institutions are not serving the glory of God and man. People copied them because they had no ideas of their own beyond imitating the already successful, and thus they now cling to the things that rend their hopes, dreams, souls, and families in pieces. You're only going along with it now because it's not affecting a field you care about seeing done right or one in which you have firsthand knowledge.
It's not a liberal idea when the tools are men, or a facsimile thereof.
To live your life so as to one day serve on the Medicare Oversight Committee is to commit to the diminishment and destruction of your soul to gain a slice of REAL TEMPORAL POWER.....in a committee among those who believe in their own power, and the oppression of the righteous their powers were designed to oppress, wholeheartedly and without reserve. Unlike you, the interloper with the weird unqualified reservations against hitting the Hated Other as hard as D'Quanisha over there.
Stick with guns and the righteous men who wield them as a team. If you don't have them, find them. If you can't find them, pray without ceasing until you do.
Neither can live without the other. At least not as civilized men. The only egalitarian societies you can find on this planet have pictures of naked ladies in National Geographic.
When you have good men and women
, your governing structure is immaterial, and out of those willing children of Abraham we can raise up the stones for any university, government, or news organization you want. But if you want to prove me wrong by taking over responsibility for Baltimore, be my guest.
(From what I saw, the Communists only went to the universities when the trade, craft, business, and professional unions rejected them, and rose to power in the universities in direct proportion to their decline into aristocratic incubators. Community colleges and other such forgivers of lack of achievment seem to suit them better. But really, you need to stop speaking abstractly about "power centers" and start describing them concretely if you wish to get any use out of them, or form a team that can willingly sacrifice their lives and fortunes to turn them from wrecks into institutions!)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ay-rights.html"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by jpholding View PostI would sooner use a cannon to slay a flea than waste my intellect on a spoiled and indifferent brat like you.
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Originally posted by Epoetker View PostYep, on this basis I'm totally going to go along with defaming a guy who actually did manage to keep a hospital running during his tenure.
Idiots like you voted this criminal into office here TWICE. I spent months debating your clones incognito as part of my research for this ebook...which still continues. So again, the boredom of a lone jackass who thinks links to amateur wacko websites like "unz.com" are worthy of any intelligent or careful consideration is of no concern to me whatsoever.
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For those who do have a brain and a interest beyond their own selfishness, however, the latest news is revealing enough.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politic...ession/2227342
Florida's Legislature collapsed into chaos Tuesday as the House unilaterally ended the annual session with more than three days left, leaving dozens of major bills dead and escalating tensions between the House and Senate over their health care stalemate.
The state Senate responded by remaining in session for two more hours and announcing plans to return Wednesday, an attempt to send the message that they are willing to work through the impasse that has bitterly divided Republicans, and frayed emotions.
"Nobody won today," said Senate President Andy Gardiner, R-Orlando, after the Senate adjourned for the day. "Nobody won. Taxpayers lost. It's an unfortunate turn of events."
House Speaker Steve Crisafulli, R-Merritt Island, gaveled the legislative session to a close at 1:15 p.m. Tuesday. "We didn't get everything we wanted, and we won't get everything that we hoped, but we have done all that we can do for this session," he said. He then told House members to go home "until the Senate decides they are ready to negotiate."
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I already know the idiot here thinks that this is the FL House showing "leadership". But I'd be interested in what the intelligent readers have to say also.Last edited by jpholding; 04-30-2015, 09:56 AM.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostIIRC there was a king in England a long time ago who had a gun made specifically for executing fleas. I can't find anything on it though, maybe that was made up. It was in some sort of weird trivia book I read a long time ago at school.
https://books.google.com/books?id=3X...cannon&f=false
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Originally posted by jpholding View PostHmm, seems to have been Queen Christina, in Sweden. Maybe this is the book?
https://books.google.com/books?id=3X...cannon&f=false
*As an old book maybe they got a few facts confused.
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Originally posted by jpholding View PostSpare yourself the tears for the bald man, idiot. He took responsibility for what happened under his watch -- once he was safe from prosecution.
Idiots like you voted this criminal into office here TWICE. I spent months debating your clones incognito as part of my research for this ebook...which still continues. So again, the boredom of a lone jackass who thinks links to amateur wacko websites like "unz.com"
Originally posted by Unz.comA Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Mediaare worthy of any intelligent or careful consideration is of no concern to me whatsoever.
For those who do have a brain and a interest beyond their own selfishness, however, the latest news is revealing enough.
I already know the idiot here thinks that this is the FL House showing "leadership".
But I'd be interested in what the intelligent readers have to say also.
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Originally posted by Epoetker View PostIf you think unz.com is "an amateur wacko website", you've been pretty sheltered for the past 10 years or so.
It's Steve Sailer's new home,
You spent all those months in the shadows debating my clones and you only respond 4 pages in? Links or it didn't happen.
I have no particular interest in Florida specifically.
I do, however, have in interest in those who think that the first and most necessary step toward having an independent hand to clean up their state is to......
My position on Rick Scott is that he's the best Florida can get unless George Zimmerman runs for office, so you might as well deal with him.
I'm dealing with him all right, and with miseducated toadstools who think he's "the best" we can get.
Obviously they should follow John Boehner's example and get along to go along instead. Being willing to shut down the government is less leadership than simple backbone. Leadership is arresting the Democratic party operatives for racketeering.
It seems that me and Darth are in fact the most intelligent readers who're actually bothering to post
in your thread without general appeal to those without knowledge of how hospitals work. I do,
But most people really aren't going to do any research beyond the initial article, maybe an anecdote if you're lucky. The GREAT WAR OF INTREPID ACCOUNTANTS AND DUTIFUL REGULATORS AGAINST EVIL DOCTORS AND THE CEOS WHO ENABLE THEM is going to be pretty tough reading for most people. Maybe you can make a comic?
But spare me otherwise....the experiment I'm doing here doesn't require that people do research.
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JP: Unless you flat out kick him out of the thread, it's difficult to prevent any Civics thread here from Epo finding a way to turn it into a rant against black people, no matter how tenuous the angle."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Sam View PostFlorida's Low Income Program is set to expire in June. The federal government isn't looking, to my knowledge, to tie LIP into the Medicaid expansion ... it's looking to sunset the LIP, as the ACA's Medicaid expansion provision does the same thing better.
If that's the case — if Scott truly is suing to prevent the federal government from simply not renewing a program after its expiration, I'd say that his tactics are simply bush league.Originally posted by semarmendem View PostYeah, sorry, I didn't see that.
I'm interested to know if the underlying argument of state's right to Federal Taxes collected from their citizen is ever litigated in court?
Um, guys, the problem was the linkage - the expiration news was old but the linkage, as I read it, was new.
Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostWhat is epo's deal anyways? He doesn't want to become a bad guy, does he? Isn't he SUPPOSED to be a Christian? Has he been exhibiting the fruit of the Spirit?
Back on the actual topic: I've worked indirectly with Medicaid (EPSDT is still one of the best programs ever) and support its existence. But Federal expansions don't just spend Federal dollars - and few states can afford to take on all the extra spending. Sadly, because 'but its money on the table' argument tends to win the day no matter how much the state is gonna end up coughing up and because politicians like getting re-elected almost all states take on way more than they should. The results are painful in the long term and detrimental to both the individual state and the federal system (not Federal government - the balance of power between the various levels of government) as a whole. I can't speak to Scott's motives but he's correct on two points: the Fed (government) is indeed pulling a squeeze play that is probably not constitutional (based solely on the article) and the Fed did not deal squarely on this one.
Whether or not a given state should consider the expansion depends on that state's finances. Alabama opted out - our budget is constitutionally required to be balanced and believe me, proration hurts the little guy a lot more than not taking the money in the first place. Florida's finances are very different from ours (lucky dogs with no income tax!) so I'd need a good bit more info to speak knowledgeably about that.
Tactically, it's a reasonable move. Gets the blood pumping, the liberals howling and, best of all, puts Obamacare back in the sites. Will it work? Dunno, no court is that predictable. My guess is it will have a political effect first - it's probably gonna get some if not all concessions once the hoopla dies down a bit. Bureaucrats hate being dragged from their nice offices into a courtroom, if nothing else.
Tired now - will check back later."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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