Liberals are evil

[Paprika]

The first people who used the guillotine ended up under the blade themselves.

And what should that say about those who killed millions of unborn children?

[Epoetker]

The first people who used the guillotine ended up under the blade themselves.

Just sayin'.

The lesson, perhaps, is that if you follow Robespierre rather than Napoleon, you probably should renounce any formal power as quickly as possible.

[Cow Poke]

Made you look!

Fill in your own anecdote that proves a generalisation.

I sold my old riding lawnmower to a liberal. He gave me 20% up front, and promised to pay the rest "on payday". I didn't allow for the fact that he was unemployed, and didn't count his welfare checks as "payday". THEREFORE.....

[Ana Dragule]

And what should that say about those who killed millions of unborn children?

Perhaps this killers too will face a guillotine of sorts, and we should pray that is be in this life and not the next.

There are many tragedies in this world and that is certainly a among them. Conservative vs liberal is not alone enough to equate fully with righteous vs righteous. Perhapsthat is somethchoosing to remember when choosing language to describe politics.

[Paprika]

There are many tragedies in this world and that is certainly a among them.

It's one of the most important given the common progressive myth that of progress in morals.

Conservative vs liberal is not alone enough to equate fully with righteous vs righteous.

Agreed. But despite the many wars started or escalated by the conservatives the liberals still account for the most deaths.

[Ana Dragule]

It's one of the most important given the common progressive myth that of progress in morals.


Agreed. But despite the many wars started or escalated by the conservatives the liberals still account for the most deaths.

What exactly do you mean when you refer to conservatives and liberals here?

[Paprika]

What exactly do you mean when you refer to conservatives and liberals here?

I'm using the reference point of the US (which is the normal one used given the Yankee-centric nature of most discussion in Civics).

[pancreasman]

I'm using the reference point of the US (which is the normal one used given the Yankee-centric nature of most discussion in Civics).

It sure makes conversation difficult with some in the US calling Obama a radical socialist.

[Paprika]

It sure makes conversation difficult with some in the US calling Obama a radical socialist.

Well, they're unlikely to change so one has to work with their very limited perspective

[Ana Dragule]

"There are many tragedies in this world and that is certainly a among them."

It's one of the most important given the common progressive myth that of progress in morals.

I'm going to contend this point. I believe you are at best misunderstanding me.

Genocide is a tragedy. War is a tragedy. Abortion is a tragedy. Not saying every number is exactly equal, but any needless loss of life matters. As a pro-life Christian, you must agree that every life has value as it is for each one of those souls that Christ died.

Agreed. But despite the many wars started or escalated by the conservatives the liberals still account for the most deaths.

BTW, not every liberal is particularly pro-choice. Not every conservative is such because of abortion. And I still believe that the pro-life movement would gain more support if they did things on a slightly different marketing approach-not everyone can stomach being a one or two issue voter. A broader approach might also like make supposedly multi-issue liberals who really vote on abortion have to admit that and make them easier to call out instead of fake uppity righteousness over other issues.

[Ana Dragule]

It's one of the most important given the common progressive myth that of progress in morals.


Agreed. But despite the many wars started or escalated by the conservatives the liberals still account for the most deaths.

It sure makes conversation difficult with some in the US calling Obama a radical socialist.

Ahh, I guess that is what some consider showing the love of Christ, but if we get super progressive, they might have a Stalinesk contrast one day and learn what a real radial socialist is.

[Paprika]

Genocide is a tragedy. War is a tragedy. Abortion is a tragedy. Not saying every number is exactly equal, but any needless loss of life matters. As a pro-life Christian, you must agree that every life has value as it is for each one of those souls that Christ died.

Given that I said 'one of the most important' I clearly acknowledge that other tragedies exist.

[Ana Dragule]

Given that I said 'one of the most important' I clearly acknowledge that other tragedies exist.

I thought that you meant what I said was a myth. Thank you.

I've still met pro-choice conservatives who want economic freedom for the poor who don't feel like they have a future and liberals who support babies and aid to care for them.

[KingsGambit]

I thought that you meant what I said was a myth. Thank you.

I've still met pro-choice conservatives who want economic freedom for the poor who don't feel like they have a future and liberals who support babies and aid to care for them.

This is why I have little patience for people who condemn liberalism as inherently evil with abortion as the main justification. There are plenty of self-styled conservatives who are pro-choice, and plenty more conservatives who do no more than pay lip service to the issue.

[Darth Executor]

This is why I have little patience for people who condemn liberalism as inherently evil with abortion as the main justification. There are plenty of self-styled conservatives who are pro-choice, and plenty more conservatives who do no more than pay lip service to the issue.

It doesn't matter if there are exceptions to the rule, groups are judged by the average, not the outliers. Your argument is basically:

This is why I have little patience for people who condemn Nazism as inherently evil with killing Jews as the main justification. There are plenty of self-styled communists who are pro-Shoah, and plenty more communists who do no more than pay lip service to the issue.

Nobody cares if #NotAllNazis want to holocaust Jews, it is the mainstream Nazi position so it's associated with them, just like abortion originated from progressive ideology and remains the dominant position among both the progressive rank and file and their leadership.