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  • #16
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Boycotting and fear-mongering are not the same thing.
    If you don't think the headline in this OP (to say nothing of the dozens of similar headlines in otherwise credible publications) is sensationalistic fear-mongering, I don't know what to tell you.
    Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Yttrium View Post
      Mind you, I have no problem with a moderate amount of ridicule directed at Indiana.
      Indiana wants me, Lord, I can't go back there.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #18
        And ... in the interests of balance I am ashamed to say in my own country:

        http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-1...ue-qld/6399340

        Fire has seriously damaged a mosque in Toowoomba on Queensland's Darling Downs.

        The blaze broke out just before 2:00am (AEST) inside the brick building in West Street in Toowoomba.

        Firefighters managed to put it out but it caused significant damage.

        Police are treating it as an arson attack and have begun doorknocking homes in the area.

        Scenes of crime and forensic police officers are at the scene.

        It is the second such attack on the mosque this year.
        Last edited by pancreasman; 04-16-2015, 06:55 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
          If you don't think the headline in this OP (to say nothing of the dozens of similar headlines in otherwise credible publications) is sensationalistic fear-mongering, I don't know what to tell you.
          It was extremely clear that the people involved in proposing and writing the bill, and the people with whom the governor signed the bill in the company of, intended the bill primarily to allow discrimination against gay people. Lawyers who examined the text of the bill itself said that the bill was allowing discrimination. All those credible publications you mention got lawyers to look at the bill, and got their fact-checking people to examine who was supporting the bill and why: That's why they all ran the headlines that it was in fact about discrimination against gay people... because it was.

          If, at this point, you are still too stupid to acknowledge the basic facts, or you see some giant conspiracy, fine, whatever.
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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          • #20
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            Can we please try to have thread titles try to actually say something about what the thread is about?
            That would be contrary to past practice.
            Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pancreasman View Post
              And ... in the interests of balance I am ashamed to say in my own country:

              http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-1...ue-qld/6399340
              They set the minds of Muslims on fire, they expect that it won't come back to burn them?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                alternatively ... is there any way I can ignore the entire civics sub-forum?
                A long ignore list would help a great deal.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by pancreasman View Post
                  And ... in the interests of balance I am ashamed to say in my own country:

                  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-1...ue-qld/6399340
                  Given past deception by progressives (eg. 'I'll ride with you') one is forced to wonder if this is actually a real attack or self-inflicted just like many of the death threats "received" by SJWs.

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                  • #24
                    It's true that some who support a noble cause such as treating others with kindness and equality regardless of characteristics like sexual orientation (gay rights, if you will) behave shamefully/hypocritically, and that should rightfully be condemned, but threads like these come across as petulant whining and blame-shifting. You're not saying anything constructive or even making an argument for/against anything. You're just looking for an opportunity to spit in the faces of those who support an intellectual position that you disagree with.

                    Now only if those evil bigot Indiana pizza makers could show such tolerance towards militant homosexuals. Wouldn't the world be such a better place?
                    In all likelihood, the people who did this were probably straight people who were overzealous of standing up for gay rights, not gay people themselves. Aside from that, I don't believe the Indiana pizza makers are evil or bigots, and I wouldn't characterize the issue as "tolerance" so much as "basic respect and kindness," but they should, in fact, stop refusing service, because 1) it's a nice thing to do, 2) it's what their pizzeria business by definition is supposed to have them do, and 3) making a few dumb pizzas that other people are going to consume while at a wedding is not tantamount to participating in the wedding. And in fact, the world would be a better place if they did that.

                    So yeah, basically going "HA! Look at these people who support gay rights and act badly!" is weak and accomplishes nothing. It's also a bit hypocritical itself, since I know I've seen you complain vehemently when Internet atheists flaunt instances of bad behavior from Christians for the sole purpose of mocking Christianity.
                    Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                    I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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                    • #25
                      I think it is very telling that when Christians do something that radical liberals and homosexuals don't like, they make a huge deal about it and say "Look how evil and intolerant Christians are" - and when radical liberals and homosexuals do something like this and terrorize Christians, their response is "yeah maybe they went a bit too far, but who can blame them? Christians are so evil and intolerant"

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        I think it is very telling that when Christians do something that radical liberals and homosexuals don't like, they make a huge deal about it and say "Look how evil and intolerant Christians are" - and when radical liberals and homosexuals do something like this and terrorize Christians, their response is "yeah maybe they went a bit too far, but who can blame them? Christians are so evil and intolerant"
                        You are so incredibly intolerant.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #27
                          3455455065_liberal_tolerance_rant.jpeg

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                            You're not saying anything constructive or even making an argument for/against anything. You're just looking for an opportunity to spit in the faces of those who support an intellectual position that you disagree with...
                            So yeah, basically going "HA! Look at these people who support gay rights and act badly!" is weak and accomplishes nothing.
                            On the contrary, winning on the moral level by painting the opposition as hateful bigots has been crucial to the victory of the progressives.

                            Pointing out that most progressives are evil in their progressiveness serves as equivalent counter-balance, which is why fm93 is trying to disqualify it.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              I think it is very telling that when Christians do something that radical liberals and homosexuals don't like, they make a huge deal about it and say "Look how evil and intolerant Christians are" - and when radical liberals and homosexuals do something like this and terrorize Christians, their response is "yeah maybe they went a bit too far, but who can blame them? Christians are so evil and intolerant"
                              Okay, first of all, the groups who support gay rights extend far beyond merely "radical liberals" and gay people. Moderate liberals, moderates, independents, and even some conservatives (such as the Log Cabin Republicans) support gay rights as well, and many of those people are straight.

                              Second of all, who in the world are you conversing with that actually mentions "tolerance" as a point of argument? I see plenty of gay rights supporters calling conservative Christians bigots and homophobes, but I don't actually see them calling Christians intolerant. It's probably the term that gets thrown around the least, but you focus on it as if it's the one used the most.

                              Finally, no one in this thread has said anything remotely similar to that, so I have no clue what the relevance of that last post was.
                              Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                              I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                                BLARP!
                                That's what I thought

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