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  • How All Traffic Stops Should Go

    http://mic.com/articles/115242/video...tops-should-go

    A video of a young black man's reflections on a traffic stop in Lexington County, South Carolina has gone viral for its anti-stereotyping message.

    22-year-old Army National Guardsman Will Stack recorded the clip from in his car after being pulled over by a white police officer for crossing a traffic median while making a left turn outside the county courthouse. After a polite, calm encounter in which Stack kept his hands on the wheel and the officer explained Stack's error, Stack drove away without a ticket and none the worse for wear.

    In the video, Stack argues that this polite run-in with the cops happened just as it should have. He adds that it demonstrates incidents like the traffic stop shooting of Walter Scott in North Charleston shouldn't be viewed as the norm:

    NBC 12 reported that Stack intended the video to be a "positive" counterpart to the overwhelmingly negative media coverage of race relations across the United States.

    "I am an African-American male. This gentleman was a Caucasian," Stack says in the two-minute video. "There were no problems."

    "He did his job, I did what I was supposed to do, and that was it. You know, I feel like people need to understand that not all officers are crooked. Not all officers are racist, bad people, and not people who get got shot or Tased or arrested by officers are innocent victims," he continued. "You know, just because you're black doesn't mean you're a victim. Just because you're white doesn't mean you're a racist."
    That's what
    - She

    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
    Stephen R. Donaldson

  • #2
    I haven't had problems with police officers (for the most part) either (everyone that's pulled me over has been white), But I also don't extrapolate my experiences, along with shocking ones that we saw on the internet, with everyone else.

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    • #3
      NICK!
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      • #4
        This was the same point I made in another thread. The news just reports the sensational stuff, not the ordinary stuff. There are a lot more good cops than bad ones.

        Out of thousands of arrests every day in this country, you might see a dozen or so news articles per year about bad cops. Those that judge all cops by a few bad ones are the very definition of prejudiced. Judging a group by a few people.

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        • #5
          What a nice young man Will is...
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
            NICK!
            #Notttryingtomakeyoucheat

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              This was the same point I made in another thread. The news just reports the sensational stuff, not the ordinary stuff. There are a lot more good cops than bad ones.

              Out of thousands of arrests every day in this country, you might see a dozen or so news articles per year about bad cops. Those that judge all cops by a few bad ones are the very definition of prejudiced. Judging a group by a few people.
              problem is that the bad eggs (as few as they may be) are making some very noisy and messy international headlines at the moment
              "If you can ever make any major religion look absolutely ludicrous, chances are you haven't understood it"
              -Ravi Zacharias, The New Age: A foreign bird with a local walk

              Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
              1 Corinthians 16:13

              "...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
              -Ben Witherington III

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Raphael View Post
                problem is that the bad eggs (as few as they may be) are making some very noisy and messy international headlines at the moment
                That's what I mean. The news people love a story like that and so that is what you see and read about. But compared to the number of good cops and good arrests that go on every day, the news articles are only a small percentage, probably less than .1%

                You don't read about all of the cars that make it home just fine each day, but you do read about pile ups and wrecks. Same with airlines. How many planes land safely? You never read about them. Just the hijackings and wrecks. If you went by the news, you would never leave your house.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  That's what I mean. The news people love a story like that and so that is what you see and read about. But compared to the number of good cops and good arrests that go on every day, the news articles are only a small percentage, probably less than .1%

                  You don't read about all of the cars that make it home just fine each day, but you do read about pile ups and wrecks. Same with airlines. How many planes land safely? You never read about them. Just the hijackings and wrecks. If you went by the news, you would never leave your house.
                  meh, when I was in South Africa, my hijacking never even made the local news apart from the monthly police crime stats.
                  "If you can ever make any major religion look absolutely ludicrous, chances are you haven't understood it"
                  -Ravi Zacharias, The New Age: A foreign bird with a local walk

                  Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
                  1 Corinthians 16:13

                  "...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
                  -Ben Witherington III

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                    Oyou might see a dozen or so news articles per year about bad cops
                    Only a dozen? And these can only be the tip of the iceberg, since the ones that are reported in the media tend to be the ones with photographic/video evidence.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                      http://mic.com/articles/115242/video...tops-should-go

                      A video of a young black man's reflections on a traffic stop in Lexington County, South Carolina has gone viral for its anti-stereotyping message.

                      22-year-old Army National Guardsman Will Stack recorded the clip from in his car after being pulled over by a white police officer for crossing a traffic median while making a left turn outside the county courthouse. After a polite, calm encounter in which Stack kept his hands on the wheel and the officer explained Stack's error, Stack drove away without a ticket and none the worse for wear.

                      In the video, Stack argues that this polite run-in with the cops happened just as it should have. He adds that it demonstrates incidents like the traffic stop shooting of Walter Scott in North Charleston shouldn't be viewed as the norm:

                      NBC 12 reported that Stack intended the video to be a "positive" counterpart to the overwhelmingly negative media coverage of race relations across the United States.

                      "I am an African-American male. This gentleman was a Caucasian," Stack says in the two-minute video. "There were no problems."

                      "He did his job, I did what I was supposed to do, and that was it. You know, I feel like people need to understand that not all officers are crooked. Not all officers are racist, bad people, and not people who get got shot or Tased or arrested by officers are innocent victims," he continued. "You know, just because you're black doesn't mean you're a victim. Just because you're white doesn't mean you're a racist."
                      That's all well and good, but what exactly is the point being made? "Hey guys, most officers aren't bad, so stop focusing on obtaining justice for the victims who were abused by bad officers?"

                      It's a good thing that nothing bad happened in this instance, but this young man upholding it like it's something special seems odd; it's as if a parent said she was glad that she didn't abuse her children this morning. Traffic stops should always be perfectly fine, and they usually are, so of course reporters don't need to cover routine harmless traffic stops. I'm fairly certain that the folks protesting recent events are aware that bad officers are in the minority, just as I'm fairly certain that their point is "Even one bad cop is one too many."
                      Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                      I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                        Only a dozen?
                        I said "dozen" as a number representing a small number. It might be two dozen or so. The point was that the number of such incidents reported is small compared to what is not reported about good cops.

                        And these can only be the tip of the iceberg, since the ones that are reported in the media tend to be the ones with photographic/video evidence.
                        That is an argument from silence. Which is one of the points I was making: that people see a few reports and extrapolate that all (or most) cops are bad, evil stormtroopers. I know several cops and my brother is one. CP used to be one, metro is one. They can testify that most cops are good.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                          That's all well and good, but what exactly is the point being made? "Hey guys, most officers aren't bad, so stop focusing on obtaining justice for the victims who were abused by bad officers?"

                          It's a good thing that nothing bad happened in this instance, but this young man upholding it like it's something special seems odd; it's as if a parent said she was glad that she didn't abuse her children this morning. Traffic stops should always be perfectly fine, and they usually are, so of course reporters don't need to cover routine harmless traffic stops. I'm fairly certain that the folks protesting recent events are aware that bad officers are in the minority, just as I'm fairly certain that their point is "Even one bad cop is one too many."
                          These bad cops are punished.

                          What is your solution? Treat all cops as bad because a few are? Eliminate police altogether?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                            That's all well and good, but what exactly is the point being made? "Hey guys, most officers aren't bad, so stop focusing on obtaining justice for the victims who were abused by bad officers?"
                            Do you try to bait us into calling your remarks stupid? Because this looks like top grade chum here. You can't seriously think that was the point I was making. PLEASE tell me you were trying to be facetious... PLEASE??

                            It's a good thing that nothing bad happened in this instance, but this young man upholding it like it's something special seems odd;
                            It's a lesson that is MUCH needed. Don't act like you have something to hide and cooperate with the police when they ask you to do something, and chances are they will return the respect.

                            it's as if a parent said she was glad that she didn't abuse her children this morning.
                            No. it would be as if a person was showing how not to get their behind kicked by not instigating the butt whipping.

                            Traffic stops should always be perfectly fine, and they usually are, so of course reporters don't need to cover routine harmless traffic stops.
                            This was a viral video, not a news report.

                            I'm fairly certain that the folks protesting recent events are aware that bad officers are in the minority, just as I'm fairly certain that their point is "Even one bad cop is one too many."
                            But they STILL need to know that doing what the cop says when he says it will generally lead to peaceful interactions with the cops. The Police are not the enemy, despite how a large swath of the entire culture is trying to portray them.
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            Stephen R. Donaldson

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Raphael View Post
                              meh, when I was in South Africa, my hijacking never even made the local news apart from the monthly police crime stats.
                              To be clear, when you say "my hijacking" are you referring to an incident wherein your car was hijacked by someone else, or do you mean that you personally committed a hijacking?
                              I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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