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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostAll words are fabricated.That's what
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostPeople who view homosexuals or transexuals negatively suddenly become etymologists when they get accused of bigotry.
Clearly, the real issue isn't those words, it's that those words are targeting them.
I really didn't have anything to say to Bill's poorly-conceived, hysteric reply except to poke fun at him.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostAnd people who accuse people who view homosexuals and transsexuals negatively suddenly become clinically trained psychologists who can tell the difference between normal adaptive responses like aversion to unnatural behaviors and an actual clinical "phobia". It makes a mockery of people who actually have an anxiety disorder in the same way that calling someone a "retard" mocks people who actually have a development disorder. But we don't expect consistency from your side, PM...
No, it's WHY those words are targeting them.
It's a proper response, just like I cited on "photophobic". Psychologists and medical doctors realize the phrase is a misnomer, although some of the more extreme cases DO in fact rise to the level of fear, as cited above. you have no reply. The term is nothing better than calling us bigots. And the usage is simply to shut us up. It's pathetic.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostThat's not what they're doing though. Homophobia isn't an actual phobia.
Because the people using those words see a denial of equal rights?
Why is calling someone a bigot pathetic?
It just seems like a plain old label to me.
If someone says black people are inferior to white people, they are a racist. So what's wrong with calling them that?That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostBINGO!!! It's a club to shut people up. Plain and simple.
No, it's because they want to shut their opponents up with shaming words. They want compliance.
Because it is a word intended to shut down the conversation and shame the person into silent obeisance.
Because you are a bigot against Conservative values. See how that was used? To try to shut the conversation down by belittling you. It's a pathetic ploy by someone who really has no argument.
There is no misnomer in the term racist. It isn't "racephobia". But it too is most often a bludgeon used to shut the racist up. How about actually having an argument...
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostI suggest you learn basic linguistics so you can understand that words don't have to have the same meaning as their combined roots, unless you speak French."Kahahaha! Let's get lunatic!"-Add LP
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostSo let me get this straight. I don't want to misinterpret you or put words in your mouth. You don't think people should apply negative labels to anyone because the purpose of those labels is to shut down conversation instead of make an argument? Therefore, nobody should call anyone else a racist, sexist or bigot? What about evil, bad, wrong, or stupid?
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostSo let me get this straight. I don't want to misinterpret you or put words in your mouth. You don't think people should apply negative labels to anyone because the purpose of those labels is to shut down conversation instead of make an argument?
Therefore, nobody should call anyone else a racist, sexist or bigot?
What about evil, bad, wrong, or stupid?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by seasanctuary View PostI prefer "heterosexist" or simply "sexist" to describe what is intended by "homophobe" without allowing the etymology derailment.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by seasanctuary View PostI prefer "heterosexist" or simply "sexist" to describe what is intended by "homophobe" without allowing the etymology derailment.threatened browbeaten sodomizedsocialized into people.
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Originally posted by seasanctuary View PostI prefer "heterosexist" or simply "sexist" to describe what is intended by "homophobe" without allowing the etymology derailment."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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