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  • Scientists to Smithsonian: Cut ties with Koch brothers

    Source: Washington Post


    Three dozen scientists sent an open letter to museums of natural history calling on them to cut ties with the Koch brothers and anyone else with connections to the fossil fuel industry.

    In the letter, and a subsequent petition related specifically to the billionaire Koch brothers, the scientists contend that museums of science and natural history should not be associated with “those who profit from fossil fuels or fund lobby groups that misrepresent climate science.”

    The petition specifically calls for David Koch to be kicked off the boards of the American Museum of Natural History in New York and the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington. The movement is being organized by a new “mobile” museum called The Natural History Museum, a pop-up whose exhibitions are featured in existing institutions.

    They plan to present the petitions to the museums in New York and D.C. before their respective spring board meetings.

    David Koch, the billionaire conservative donor and executive vice president of Koch Industries, donated $35 million in 2012 for a new dinosaur hall at the Smithsonian’s Natural History museum. He had previously given $15 million to the museum’s hall of human origins that is named for him. In New York’s museum, he donated $20 million to the dinosaur wing that is also named after him.

    Randall Kremer, spokesman for the Smithsonian Natural History museum, said both exhibits deal in great detail with the impacts of climate change. And that Koch, and others on the board, are well aware of that.

    Kremer told the Loop that they wouldn’t be supporting the museum if they “did not understand the science behind our public programs.” (The Smithsonian has been unequivocal in its belief that climate change is manmade.)

    Koch did not respond directly to the letter, or his opinion on climate change, but Ken Spain, Koch’s managing director for external relations did send the Loop an e-mailed statement:

    “David Koch and the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation have pledged or contributed more than $1.2 billion dollars to educational institutions and cultural institutions, cancer research, medical centers, and to assist public policy organizations. Mr. Koch remains committed to supporting these causes.”

    It’s improbable that the museums are going to cut off a top benefactor. But the letter, signed by a number of scientists from universities and environmental interest groups, will certainly be an irritant. It was tweeted over and over Tuesday by actor Mark Ruffalo to his 1.39 million followers:

    Why are science museums in bed with science deniers? Tell natural hx museums to kick Koch off their boards: http://bit.ly/1Be1MO3

    How much the Kochs support climate change deniers is a popular topic for Democrats hoping to vilify them. In fact, several Democratic senators wanted to investigate whether fossil fuel companies, including Koch Industries, were funneling money to groups trying to discredit climate change, but the Kochs’s lawyer said that information was protected by the First Amendment.


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    I didn't know science was now in the business of purging heretics. Politics is destroying science like it does everything else it touches. I guess now it's okay to purge donors/scientists that get money from the oil lobby, but money given to scientists from the environmental lobby are perfectly fine. That's science, baby!
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

  • #2
    Originally posted by Jesse View Post
    I guess now it's okay to purge donors/scientists that get money from the oil lobby, but money given to scientists from the environmental lobby are perfectly fine. That's science, baby!
    In your imagination does the environmental lobby have the kind of money that the oil lobby does?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      In your imagination does the environmental lobby have the kind of money that the oil lobby does?
      I have no idea how much the environmental lobby or the oil lobby gives to scientists on an annual basis. Nor does it matter. Politics should not be influencing science. I have a higher standard for science then that. Color me naive.
      "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jesse View Post
        I have no idea how much the environmental lobby or the oil lobby gives to scientists on an annual basis. Nor does it matter. Politics should not be influencing science. I have a higher standard for science then that. Color me naive.
        If a medical museum was receiving donations from someone who advocated that vaccines cause autism, and a group of doctors wanted the museum to sever ties to that donator, would you find that equally disagreeable?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jesse View Post
          Source: Washington Post


          Three dozen scientists sent an open letter to museums of natural history calling on them to cut ties with the Koch brothers and anyone else with connections to the fossil fuel industry.

          In the letter, and a subsequent petition related specifically to the billionaire Koch brothers, the scientists contend that museums of science and natural history should not be associated with “those who profit from fossil fuels or fund lobby groups that misrepresent climate science.”

          The petition specifically calls for David Koch to be kicked off the boards of the American Museum of Natural History in New York and the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington. The movement is being organized by a new “mobile” museum called The Natural History Museum, a pop-up whose exhibitions are featured in existing institutions.

          They plan to present the petitions to the museums in New York and D.C. before their respective spring board meetings.

          David Koch, the billionaire conservative donor and executive vice president of Koch Industries, donated $35 million in 2012 for a new dinosaur hall at the Smithsonian’s Natural History museum. He had previously given $15 million to the museum’s hall of human origins that is named for him. In New York’s museum, he donated $20 million to the dinosaur wing that is also named after him.

          Randall Kremer, spokesman for the Smithsonian Natural History museum, said both exhibits deal in great detail with the impacts of climate change. And that Koch, and others on the board, are well aware of that.

          Kremer told the Loop that they wouldn’t be supporting the museum if they “did not understand the science behind our public programs.” (The Smithsonian has been unequivocal in its belief that climate change is manmade.)

          Koch did not respond directly to the letter, or his opinion on climate change, but Ken Spain, Koch’s managing director for external relations did send the Loop an e-mailed statement:

          “David Koch and the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation have pledged or contributed more than $1.2 billion dollars to educational institutions and cultural institutions, cancer research, medical centers, and to assist public policy organizations. Mr. Koch remains committed to supporting these causes.”

          It’s improbable that the museums are going to cut off a top benefactor. But the letter, signed by a number of scientists from universities and environmental interest groups, will certainly be an irritant. It was tweeted over and over Tuesday by actor Mark Ruffalo to his 1.39 million followers:

          Why are science museums in bed with science deniers? Tell natural hx museums to kick Koch off their boards: http://bit.ly/1Be1MO3

          How much the Kochs support climate change deniers is a popular topic for Democrats hoping to vilify them. In fact, several Democratic senators wanted to investigate whether fossil fuel companies, including Koch Industries, were funneling money to groups trying to discredit climate change, but the Kochs’s lawyer said that information was protected by the First Amendment.


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          © Copyright Original Source


          I didn't know science was now in the business of purging heretics. Politics is destroying science like it does everything else it touches. I guess now it's okay to purge donors/scientists that get money from the oil lobby, but money given to scientists from the environmental lobby are perfectly fine. That's science, baby!
          It's not poloitcs - it's people. Just replace scientists with robots and it'll be fine....

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
            If a medical museum was receiving donations from someone who advocated that vaccines cause autism, and a group of doctors wanted the museum to sever ties to that donator, would you find that equally disagreeable?
            Interesting question. Do anti-vaxxers have a political lobby behind them? I personally wouldn't care if an anti-vaxxer was giving money to a medical museum. That money would just be used to combat the anti-vaxxers anyway. Much like what is happening with the Smithsonian. They have no problem with receiving money from those they disagree with. Since both parties know about it. So I don't see a problem either. Only scientists being supported by the environmental lobby have a problem with it. The Smithsonian is not going to kick the Kochs off of the board or stop taking the money. So I am not sure of the point.
            "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
              It's not poloitcs - it's people. Just replace scientists with robots and it'll be fine....
              You are starting to think like me. Viva la Robotica!
              "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                If a medical museum was receiving donations from someone who advocated that vaccines cause autism, and a group of doctors wanted the museum to sever ties to that donator, would you find that equally disagreeable?
                sure. It is the museum's business who they take donations from and who they put on the board, not yours or mine, or some other political group.

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