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  • #31
    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
    This is why I think affirmative action insults the people it purports to help, and it may even make their achievements look less legitimate in the eyes of others (well you just got in because of affirmative action).
    I got accepted to Bemidji which is an extremely white school with probably a .1% of black kids(I don't know about the other races), and my friends and I agree it's "cause I'm black".
    Being the seniors that we are,we don't care as long as we get into college.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Cerealman View Post
      I got accepted to Bemidji which is an extremely white school with probably a .1% of black kids(I don't know about the other races), and my friends and I agree it's "cause I'm black".
      Being the seniors that we are,we don't care as long as we get into college.
      Maybe they plan to ritually sacrifice you.
      "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
        Maybe they plan to ritually sacrifice you.
        I'll ask for a police escort from the Mayor.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Cerealman View Post
          I got accepted to Bemidji which is an extremely white school with probably a .1% of black kids(I don't know about the other races), and my friends and I agree it's "cause I'm black".
          Being the seniors that we are,we don't care as long as we get into college.
          Back when I was still living in South Africa, I met a fellow programmer who was working for head office. he was black, and a very good programmer. As a result, because companies were desperate to achieve both the BBBEE quotas and have someone who knew what they were doing, he was averaging 6 months in a job before moving onto bigger and better positions.
          He know it was because he had a good combination (black and actually having the ability to do the job) and was determined to get as much as he could from it.
          Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Raphael View Post
            Back when I was still living in South Africa, I met a fellow programmer who was working for head office. he was black, and a very good programmer. As a result, because companies were desperate to achieve both the BBBEE quotas and have someone who knew what they were doing, he was averaging 6 months in a job before moving onto bigger and better positions.
            He know it was because he had a good combination (black and actually having the ability to do the job) and was determined to get as much as he could from it.
            My Mom always tells me "if you're black and you're good at something, you'll go places."
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            • #36
              She also says "clean your room", but I can't seem to pass that course.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cerealman View Post
                I got accepted to Bemidji which is an extremely white school with probably a .1% of black kids(I don't know about the other races), and my friends and I agree it's "cause I'm black".
                Being the seniors that we are,we don't care as long as we get into college.
                Racial preference is just as dumb as the opposite. But it would be foolish not to take advantage of it since you seem to think it is at work. Just show 'em what you are made of.
                Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                  I actually do have an online acquaintance from Auckland who does tell me that the racial dynamic there is very much present, for what it's worth
                  The ccultural differences are enormous. One cannot assume that X is qualitatively the same just because the vocabulary is.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cerealman View Post
                    My Mom always tells me "if you're black and you're good at something, you'll go places."
                    She left out that the real reason you have a good shot is that you had parents like her.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      In my experience, the conservatives that are nasty to others on the basis of race, like to try to justify their behavior by pointing to how liberals are also 'racist'
                      Projection. As far as I'm aware there aren't any conservatives here that are nasty on the basis of race (excepting myself if you believe Catholicity); it is liberals who justify their policies by claiming that other people are so rayciss that they have to be racist too to reestablish the balance.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                        In my experience, the conservatives that are nasty to others on the basis of race, like to try to justify their behavior by pointing to how liberals are also 'racist'
                        it is liberals who justify their policies by claiming that other people are so rayciss that they have to be racist too to reestablish the balance.
                        That doesn't make any sense. "justify their policies"? Liberals can't have some pre-existing hidden agenda for their policies, because the policies of liberals do not normally favor themselves - eg I am a middle-class white male of British descent who is relatively young and very highly educated, which is a demographic very common for a 'progressive' or 'liberal'. Any of the liberal policies designed to help minority races, women, the elderly, the sick, the poor, or those earning the minimum wage, don't benefit me directly and that is abundantly obvious to me.

                        What are the motivations for any person who is voting and advocating for policies that will help others and hurt themselves? They can hardly be directly selfish motivations. The motivations have to be unselfish ones - that overall they think those policies are what is best for the wider society.

                        So any white and racist conservatives can be motivated to try and hide their own racism behind a shield of "liberals are racist too!" or some such gibberish. Whereas white liberals are not going to have any inherent desire to harm their own race, but after observing the sufferings of racial minorities they might subsequently be led to advocate for policies to help the victims.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          That doesn't make any sense. "justify their policies"? Liberals can't have some pre-existing hidden agenda for their policies, because the policies of liberals do not normally favor themselves - eg I am a middle-class white male of British descent who is relatively young and very highly educated, which is a demographic very common for a 'progressive' or 'liberal'. Any of the liberal policies designed to help minority races, women, the elderly, the sick, the poor, or those earning the minimum wage, don't benefit me directly and that is abundantly obvious to me.

                          What are the motivations for any person who is voting and advocating for policies that will help others and hurt themselves? They can hardly be directly selfish motivations. The motivations have to be unselfish ones - that overall they think those policies are what is best for the wider society.

                          So any white and racist conservatives can be motivated to try and hide their own racism behind a shield of "liberals are racist too!" or some such gibberish. Whereas white liberals are not going to have any inherent desire to harm their own race, but after observing the sufferings of racial minorities they might subsequently be led to advocate for policies to help the victims.
                          In my AP Gov class, I can't remember the name of the case, but a girl in Texas who was in the 20 percentile of her class was not accepted into the University of Texas. Supposedly due to affirmative action favoring people like me over her(though if she was in the 20 percentile I don't think it's makes her that "special",makes her smarter than me though). If I can find it I'll post it here.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            That doesn't make any sense. "justify their policies"? Liberals can't have some pre-existing hidden agenda for their policies, because the policies of liberals do not normally favor themselves - eg I am a middle-class white male of British descent who is relatively young and very highly educated, which is a demographic very common for a 'progressive' or 'liberal'. Any of the liberal policies designed to help minority races, women, the elderly, the sick, the poor, or those earning the minimum wage, don't benefit me directly and that is abundantly obvious to me.
                            Liberals in your demographic don't have much to gain personally (except a cocaine-like high). But liberals in your demographic exhibit other dysgenic behavior (like failing to reproduce) so I wouldn't take it to mean much other than that your demographic is easily manipulated into slitting its own throat and possibly mentally ill.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              That doesn't make any sense. "justify their policies"? Liberals can't have some pre-existing hidden agenda for their policies, because the policies of liberals do not normally favor themselves - eg I am a middle-class white male of British descent who is relatively young and very highly educated, which is a demographic very common for a 'progressive' or 'liberal'. Any of the liberal policies designed to help minority races, women, the elderly, the sick, the poor, or those earning the minimum wage, don't benefit me directly and that is abundantly obvious to me.

                              What are the motivations for any person who is voting and advocating for policies that will help others and hurt themselves? They can hardly be directly selfish motivations. The motivations have to be unselfish ones - that overall they think those policies are what is best for the wider society.

                              So any white and racist conservatives can be motivated to try and hide their own racism behind a shield of "liberals are racist too!" or some such gibberish. Whereas white liberals are not going to have any inherent desire to harm their own race, but after observing the sufferings of racial minorities they might subsequently be led to advocate for policies to help the victims.
                              Interesting because you're just ignoring what others tell you and just repeating what you said again. I'm sorry, but slavery ended 150 years ago and Jim Crow bit the dust back in the 1950's. Yet here you are, trying to justify your racism by saying that black/brown people are too stupid to get by on their own merits and need to be given advantages. How many more decades will it take for your plan to work and how many more generations of white people do you want punished, for things that happened decades before their birth?
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cerealman View Post
                                In my AP Gov class, I can't remember the name of the case, but a girl in Texas who was in the 20 percentile of her class was not accepted into the University of Texas. Supposedly due to affirmative action favoring people like me over her(though if she was in the 20 percentile I don't think it's makes her that "special",makes her smarter than me though). If I can find it I'll post it here.
                                This one ?
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