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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostRight, I forgot how easy it is for you to go into a seizure.
It's not elsewhere, it's in the part you quoted and it has nothing to do with what I said was missing (namely, crime rates, and no, rate of found contraband is not the same thing).
African Americans are more than twice as likely as white drivers to be searched during vehicle stops even after controlling for non-race based variables such as the reason the vehicle stop was initiated
And I'm not sure what you mean by the latter part. Isn't possessing contraband a crime? If more black people are checked for contraband but are found to have it at a lower percentage, that implies that black people are less likely to commit that crime. Unless it's merely a few black people being checked over and over again, but that's rather implausible.
Not really. Why should it? In and of itself it doesn't mean anything.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostUh...no. That's why, in the post that you yourself quoted, I cite the report that black people do not, in fact, commit more crimes percentage-wise.
For instance :Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, whites commit 69.2% of the crimes, and blacks 28.4%. Whites are 72.4% of the population and blacks 12.6%. So percentage wise blacks commit more murders and manslaughter.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...ables/table-43Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd if you weren't such a dull witted moron, maybe you would have realized that not a single credible witness supported the "Hands up, don't shoot" narrative.Last edited by fm93; 03-06-2015, 03:18 PM.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo, I'm speaking generally. And yes blacks do commit more crimes. Do you see drive by shootings in white neighborhoods?
For instance :Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, whites commit 69.2% of the crimes, and blacks 28.4%. Whites are 72.4% of the population and blacks 12.6%. So percentage wise blacks commit more murders and manslaughter.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...ables/table-43Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostExactly. They completely ingore the question of whether or not the arrests and citations are justified.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by square_pinhead View PostExcept that you didn't provide anything saying "not a single credible witness" supported the narrative. You just said that some of the witnesses who were found to be credible contradicted the narrative. That doesn't mean that literally zero witnesses who thought he might've been surrendering were found to be credible. And even if that was the case, the point was that some of those witnesses were probably genuinely mistaken, not that literally all of them conspired to lie.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo, I'm speaking generally.
And yes blacks do commit more crimes. Do you see drive by shootings in white neighborhoods?
For instance :Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, whites commit 69.2% of the crimes, and blacks 28.4%. Whites are 72.4% of the population and blacks 12.6%. So percentage wise blacks commit more murders and manslaughter.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's hilarious watching you twist yourself into knots like this.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostBecause fewer white people are from the backgrounds and conditions that tend to breed violent crimes.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYes, if more crimes are committed by blacks per capita (as I have proven multiple times from the FBI UCR website), then the police are NOT doing their jobs if they do NOT arrest or stop more blacks than whites.
As I've pointed out multiple times from the report, there are clear instances in which some of these arrests and citations of black people were NOT justified. Obviously not all police in the world are racist, but it seems clear that in this case, some officers in the department were.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd, do you have any idea what percentage of blacks who are murdered are victims of other blacks? Or other violent crimes?Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by square_peg View Post
As I've pointed out multiple times from the report, there are clear instances in which some of these arrests and citations of black people were NOT justified. Obviously not all police in the world are racist, but it seems clear that in this case, some officers in the department were."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostThese policemen heavily insult and mock the intelligence, moral character and human worth of the very community whom they're supposed to serve and protect. You don't find anything problematic about that?
Oh, right. But then it appears that you missed this line directly before that:
African Americans are more than twice as likely as white drivers to be searched during vehicle stops even after controlling for non-race based variables such as the reason the vehicle stop was initiated
Also:
The racial makeup of the city was 67.4% African American, 29.3% White. There's more than twice as many blacks, so they really should be stopping more than twice as many blacks. It seems to me that they racially profiled... whites. Of course I don't accept the retarded methodology where crime rates are completely ignored, but under the typical liberal methodology all they've really proven is what I've been saying all along, which is that cops tend to go slightly easier on blacks, probably due to fears of being called racist.
And I'm not sure what you mean by the latter part. Isn't possessing contraband a crime? If more black people are checked for contraband but are found to have it at a lower percentage, that implies that black people are less likely to commit that crime. Unless it's merely a few black people being checked over and over again, but that's rather implausible.
Are you confident that that sort of treatment is administered at similar rates to non-black people?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by square_peg View Post
As I've pointed out multiple times from the report, there are clear instances in which some of these arrests and citations of black people were NOT justified. Obviously not all police in the world are racist, but it seems clear that in this case, some officers in the department were.
Probably a high percentage, but 1) that applies to murders within all races, and 2) what does that have to do with anything?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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The real issue is the lie of "hands up, don't shoot". The motivations of the department are wholly inconsequential to that being a lie. The left made this lie a full on national phenomenon. Now, when the lie was exposed, the goal posts shift to "well it had the POTENTIAL to have happened given the climate in the town"...That's what
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