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  • #31
    Originally posted by seer View Post
    Well if you look at it from the evolutionary perspective Islam is doing pretty well, especially with procreation. And in the end that is all that matters - correct?
    If natural/artificial selection were being effected, the powerful developed nations would be in the process of not only not pandering, but also using their superior military to wipe out this Satanic religion.

    Wrong again, Seer -- as usual.

    K54

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
      Tell us something new.

      If he is up for it.
      Up for what? Spinning? Lying?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
        Up for what? Spinning? Lying?
        You might at least give him a chance.
        Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
          If natural/artificial selection were being effected, the powerful developed nations would be in the process of not only not pandering, but also using their superior military to wipe out this Satanic religion.
          It is being effected. There is no way to avoid natural selection. Natural selection is always in effect. The powerful developed nations' refusal to make full use of their military might is a maladaptation that will, in the long term, be wiped out one way or another.
          "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

          There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
            If natural/artificial selection were being effected, the powerful developed nations would be in the process of not only not pandering, but also using their superior military to wipe out this Satanic religion.

            Wrong again, Seer -- as usual.

            K54
            What are you talking about? Obviously the western nations are becoming impotent and the more aggressive Muslims are gaining ground. All quite natural.
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
              I don't know how to answer this because I don't know what you mean by "cause harm". If by this phrase you mean that the person in question would take offense by what I say then no, I wouldn't feel responsible for self-censorship simply because of the fact that speaking what you perceive to be the truth today is likely to make someone take offense at your words. If this is not what you mean by the phrase "cause harm" you're going to have to elaborate.

              For example, the n-word is considered harmful in some countries when used by the general society because it has been abused as a pejorative http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger
              from the same wiki article...
              Intragroup versus intergroup usage
              Main article: Nigga
              Black listeners often react to the term differently, depending on whether it is used by white speakers or by black speakers. In the former case, it is regularly understood as an insult; in the latter, it may carry notes of in-group disparagement, or even be understood as neutral or affectionate, a possible instance of reappropriation.

              Among the black community, the slur nigger is almost always rendered as nigga, representing the pronunciation of the word in African American Vernacular English. This usage has been popularized by the rap and hip-hop music cultures and is used as part of an in-group lexicon and speech. It is not necessarily derogatory and, when used among black people, the word is often used to mean "homie" or "friend".

              Acceptance of intra-group usage of the word "nigga" is still debated, although it has established a foothold amongst younger generations. The NAACP denounces the use of both "nigga" and "nigger". Mixed-race usage of "nigga" is still considered taboo, particularly if the speaker is white. However, trends indicate that usage of the term in intragroup settings is increasing even amongst white youth due to the popularity of rap and hip hop culture.[87]
              According to Arthur K. Spears (Diverse Issues in Higher Education, 2006)


              After the police killings of African Americans---some people analyzed the media portrayal of African American men and suggested that the prevalence of referring to them as "Thugs' (criminals) contributes to the narrative that any injustice they receive is deserved---such as unusually high incarceration rates, police harassment, being killed for being African American....etc. There is a similar trend of calling Muslims "terrorist", radical Muslims, Islamists, which could contribute to hate crimes and even killings...(Burmese-Muslims of Burma are called "Bengalis" in order to create a narrative that they are the "other" making it easier to spread the Islamophobic narrative and thereby cause harm....)

              There are other words/labels that reflect general attitudes for example, in the U.S. an American of European decent is not called European-American---simply American, but others are hyphenated Americans such as African-American, Asian-American...etc...suggesting perhaps that in the U.S. the default/standard of "American" is a white American and those of color are "not quite American".....?.....

              This article explains how the word/idea of American exceptionalism is abused...
              http://www.juancole.com/2015/02/amer...ssination.html

              On the one hand---unless bad ideas/words are out in the open, they cannot be discussed or criticized, yet, when these bad ideas/words are out in the open, they can be abused to cause harm......
              So...what are the rules and who decides?
              If---as Chrawnus suggests, these rules should be decided by individuals, then what is the degree of responsibility an individual should bear when his society/community starts to abuse words and begin to cause harm?...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
                This article has EVERYTHING to do with the infiltration of Muslim culture into Western civilization.

                Modern developed culture is slowly collapsing due to pandering to a 7th century misogynistic anti-Semitic anti-Christian fast-growing and invasive religion.

                I'd love to hear "siam" address this.

                K54
                Some interesting words are being used such as...
                "Muslim Culture", "Western Civilization", "Modern developed culture"....
                How are these words defined? what do they mean?

                "7th century misogynistic anti-Semitic anti-Christian fast-growing and invasive religion. "--- suppose we label this grouping of words into a general term---"bad ideas" There is a general perception today (and for some time) among mainstream Muslims that "Wahabism" is somewhat of a "bad idea"....because some people have abused it to cause harm (for ex...Al Qaeda, ISIS) Wahabism is an 18th century counter movement that grew out of the circumstances of the Middle East of that time....Some people in the West have suggested that Mainstream Muslim scholars should disown "Wahabism" and say it is not "Islam" in order to stop this idea from being abused to cause harm. But I am not sure if this is right?...to do such a thing would be to limit the definition of "Islam" into a very limited category endangering a less tolerant black/white perspective of what Islam should/should not be....On the other hand, to not address a "bad idea" when it is causing injustice and harm seems irresponsible....

                What should be the right reaction/response?......

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