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Originally posted by seasanctuary View PostBut when doctrinal orthodoxy in other matters is the badge of being a Christian, there will be Christians who tell the bruised reeds to stop caring about being stepped on.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostIt's a duty now, is it? Pray tell how you arrived at that consclusion.
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Originally posted by seasanctuary View PostI wasn't claiming all Christians lack concern for the feelings of marginalized people, or even that Christianity encourages such heartlessness. In fact, I recall something laudable about not breaking a bruised reed or putting out a smoldering wick. But when doctrinal orthodoxy in other matters is the badge of being a Christian, there will be Christians who tell the bruised reeds to stop caring about being stepped on.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostIt is one's duty to work for the flourishing of one's society. Society does not flourish when people are encouraged to nurse adolescent hurts about their feels to advance the agenda of progressives.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by seasanctuary View PostIt's not something you're guilty of. It's just that you benefit from a societal prejudice whether you notice or not.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostIt is one's duty to work for the flourishing of one's society. Society does not flourish when people are encouraged to nurse adolescent hurts about their feels to advance the agenda of progressives.I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostEven if I grant the former part (I don't)
it does not follow that society flourishes when people are encouraged to ignore the hurts they cause to others.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostI certainly don't expect you to accept this line of alignment.
Originally posted by Paprika View PostWhen people seek to create a vicious cycle by increasing sensitivity to non-existent 'assaults', 'hurts', etc and then attempting to stamp out all behavior that might triggered the newly created feels, which leads to increased sensitivity, ignoring such hurts serves not least to protect society from the insanity that is being engendered, as well as countering the immaturity that is propagated.I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostYou haven't even argued it, just asserted it.
Little wonder that assumptions of motive are so often a fatal flaw, as you've so nicely demonstrated here. On what grounds should I, or anyone, accept your portrayal?
What are we to make of the motives of those who claim such utter rubbish with the clear goals that people be sensitised to such imaginary 'aggressions' and and on this basis discontinue them? It is easily inferable that both goals form a vicious cycle, and that is very likely that this is intended. With me so far?
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostI might be misunderstanding you, but are you claiming that there's a connection between care for doctrinal orthodoxy and callousness?
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostI did think that the idea of one having a duty to one's society's flourishing would be quite unobjectionable, but I guess I'm wrong. We begin with "love your neighbour as yourself". I believe you can see the train of thought and hope it's not necessary to detail the whole line of argument.
Originally posted by Paprika View PostLet's go through that PDF: How is "where are you from a microaggression?" Or “where were you born?” Or "asking an Asian American to teach ...words in their native language"? Or "asking an Asian person to help with a Math or Science problem"? Or the many other absurdities in that document?
Do you expect that a non-white ethnic group necessarily speaks another language? They don't. Where I come from, those with Mexican ancestors are very nearly the majority in many areas. Most of them are third or fourth generation Americans. Their great-grandparents probably spoke Spanish. They don't. Their parents don't. They still get asked that question.
Do you expect that Asian-Americans are necessarily better at math or science? You want absurdity, you've got it right there. Of course they're not. It might be that actual Asians are better at these things, but it's not as if people raised within the American education system necessarily advance in certain subjects just because of their ethnicity. This isn't hard to figure out.
Originally posted by Paprika View PostWhat are we to make of the motives of those who claim such utter rubbish with the clear goals that people be sensitised to such imaginary 'aggressions' and and on this basis discontinue them? It is easily inferable that both goals form a vicious cycle, and that is very likely that this is intended. With me so far?I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostInsofar as you claim this to be a duty for all of us, you do need to detail the whole line of argument.
Where are you from and/or where were you born can be pretty innocent. Often enough these questions lead to what square_peg mentioned:
Do you expect that a non-white ethnic group necessarily speaks another language? They don't. Where I come from, those with Mexican ancestors are very nearly the majority in many areas. Most of them are third or fourth generation Americans. Their great-grandparents probably spoke Spanish. They don't. Their parents don't. They still get asked that question.
Do you expect that Asian-Americans are necessarily better at math or science? You want absurdity, you've got it right there.
I don't grant that it's either easily or necessarily inferable. With me so far?
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